Talk:Alain Finkielkraut

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The guy is a notorious racist, he defends colonialism and doesn't want to acknowledge that Slavery was a crime against humanity, check his utterances:

"But in France, instead of fighting his kind of talk, they're actually doing what he asks: changing the teaching of colonial history and the history of slavery in the schools. Now they teach colonial history as an exclusively negative history. We don't teach anymore that the colonial project also sought to educate, to bring civilization to the savages. They only talk about it as an attempt at exploitation, domination and plunder."

"But what does Dieudonné really want? He wants a `Holocaust' for Arabs and blacks, too. But if you want to put the Holocaust and slavery on the same plane, then you have to lie. Because [slavery] wasn't a Holocaust. And [the Holocaust] wasn't `a crime against humanity,' because it wasn't just a crime. It was something ambivalent. The same is true of slavery. It began long before the West. In fact, what sets the West apart when it comes to slavery is that it was the one to eliminate it. The elimination of slavery is a European and American thing. But this truth about slavery cannot be taught in schools.

Well, what you say is a half truth. Slavery was not a Holocaust or a genocide, since the goal was not to kill the African people, but to use them for profit (which of course, is atrocious, too). In a sense, it would have been absurd to try to kill the African people "en masse", for you don't intent to destroy you own factory, or your own workhorse. So it cannot really fit in the definition. Mrbluesky

What? are you serious anaylsising him as a racist? an imperialist and defeatism over slavery? The quotes you have picked out are not even absurd. I would have agreed with you if you had picked out a chunk that actually said what you are accusing him of. He is using an opinion that slavery isn't against humanity becuase it was used in the sense that the holocaust was not either. He is actually saying why don't schools teach the young generation both sides of the story not just the democratic side (the side that hates everything imperial). METALFREAK04 (talk) 14:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

Neutrality edit

Well, the neutrality of this article seems to be fine in my opinion, that guy is controversial because of his last interview in the newspaper Haaretz, but the article explains that his critics think that he is a racist. Of course, it's always possible to discuss Finkielkraut's ideas, but saying that he is a "notorious racist" wouldn't be true as a fact. Xerbias

The whole attacks seem a little off-beat to me. Is asserting that the 1992 Los Angeles riots was racially motivated, xenophobic ? It is a matter of mere fact. Mrbluesky ² The term "racial" has a different meaning in France and the USA. When he says "racially motivated" in the French context, it does not mean "Motivated by the question of race", but "Motivated by the biology of Black people". This is due to the different evolutions of the term "race" in the two contexts. 176.252.224.11 (talk) 13:15, 12 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

There is no such school as ENS Saint-Cloud (mentionned in this biography) , it's ENS Lyon. -> ENS Saint-Cloud has really existed (and Finikielkraut attented it) although it was replaced by ENS Lyon.

Riots? edit

The text states: "When Finkielkraut cited popular culture organized along ethnic and religious lines as cause of the riots assigning the responsibility solely to the rioters, his critics alleged that his opinions on the matter were racist"

What riots does this refer to? I'm guessing that it's the massive riots of 2005 in the Paris suburbs but it's not clear from the article. Can someone confirm? Chelman 15:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)Reply

Request for Comments edit

There is an RfC on the question of using "Religion: None" vs. "Religion: None (atheist)" in the infobox on this and other similar pages.

The RfC is at Template talk:Infobox person#RfC: Religion infobox entries for individuals that have no religion.

Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:55, 23 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

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