Talk:Air Algérie Flight 6289

Latest comment: 8 months ago by Orogogus in topic Failure to fly

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A lot of ns but there is not a lot required to change them to YsPetebutt (talk) 18:58, 24 June 2012 (UTC)Reply

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The entire article body had to be removed, (edit:) because it was just a copy&paste job from ASN. See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation/Aviation accident task force#Copyright violation (from ASN only?) in various articles. Why has this article of extended size (see e.g. [1]) been replaced by ASN text? P.S.: That happened in this sequence of edits --Mopskatze (talk) 18:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)Reply

While I agree with you that the original article was better, I think I should point out it wasn´t all ´stolen´ from ASN, as a large part ('The accident was caused ..... unsuitable for an emergency landing') is also literally in the official accident report ([2] section 3.2 Probable causes). I couldn't find anything like the first part, but at least not everything is owned by ASN. I'm also not too sure about the accident report being public domain (they don't have any copyright disclaimer on their website, and NTSB reports are public, but still?), but at least ASN copied it. All in all, I agree that restoration is probably the best option, but let's assume good faith with the original editor (maybe he found it somewhere else) and I think blanking the page may be too disruptive. EmilTyf (talk) 02:12, 17 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

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(URGENT) Potential plagiarism?

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@Petebutt: @Mopskatze: @EmilTyf: @Diannaa: I pinged you all due to the urgency of this situation. So last night I checked the official report, and I discovered that the a lot of sections in the article were copied and pasted from the report! This is likely a major case of plagiarism. Tigerdude9 (talk) 19:34, 3 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hello, I have re-wrote the entire page. Apologies if my language or style is incorrect, it's my first few times re-writing pages haha. Any feedback will be appreciated! RamboTanX (talk) 09:04, 23 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Failure to fly

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This is far out of my expertise so I'm reluctant to make this edit, but the following text doesn't seem to be supported by the cited report: "During the stall warning activation, the first officer's hands were still at the control column."

What the report says is, "The co-pilot appears to have carried out the Captain’s orders by reading back in the affirmative and indicating her willingness to act (proposal to retract the gear, radio message to the tower with the hand mike) though without being sure of the role she was supposed to play. This may, for example, have resulted in her placing her hands on the control column at the time of the stall warning alarms, which would explain the repeated requests from the Captain." It's hypothetical in the report but stated as fact in this Wikipedia article. The "Flight recorders analysis" section of this article and the cited section of the report also indicate that data about the control columns weren't part of the six recorded parameters. Orogogus (talk) 01:04, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply