Talk:Ain't It Fun (Paramore song)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: HĐ (talk · contribs) 11:53, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

This article is quite long for me, so it'll take about 3-4 days for me to review this Simon (talk) 12:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Lead

• "Its conception..." --> "conception" is quite odd to me

• What's the problem with it?

• For me "conception" refers both music and lyrics, so I think just simply "It began..."

• Done.

• "Instruments like the xylophone and the bass guitar..." --> The instruments are indefinite, so please remove articles "the"

• Removed.

• "other genres such as new jack swing and new wave..." --> Infobox says "funk rock", not "new jack swing"

• Replied below.

• "..a 12" vinyl of the single was produced for Record Store Day 2014" --> I can't barely understand this

• Reworded, is it good now?

• Are there any digital download edition of the single?

• No.

• But infobox: Format (digital download, 12")

• Removed and substituted with "Promotional CD single"

• "highest-placing" --> I'd prefer "highest peaking"

• Fixed.

• "...; it was also included in the band's The Self-Titled Tour" --> Make this an independent sentence, also add year for the tour
• "After a Jonathan Desbiens-directed video for the song was cancelled, Sophia Peer filmed a second visual, which follows the band attempting to break a series of world records" --> After the original music video directed by Jonathan Desbiens being cancelled, the second and official visual was directed by Sophia Peer, which...

• Done, however just one point: both videos were/are official, it's just that the first was cancelled. Take a look at how I rephrased the sentence.

• Alright

• "Most critics reviewed the video positively." --> Odd sentence

• Reworded.

More to come. Simon (talk) 12:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I was actually the one who added funk rock, which is supported by a source I cited in the article. I don't know why new jack swing is mentioned in the lead, considering it isn't mentioned anywhere else in the article. So, I'll go ahead and replace that with funk rock in the lead. I hope you don't mind, Prism. Kokoro20 (talk) 13:06, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Why did you add it to the infobox? The main genre is pop rock, as verified in the sheet music and the Gazette source. I've added a source for new jack swing, though. — prism △ 16:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

I already mentioned the reasoning on your talk page. Kokoro20 (talk) 16:47, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Background

• "The first song completed in Los Angeles for the album..." --> You should mention the album title here

• Done

• "a gospel choir—comprised of ..." --> add the number of members here (six)

• Added

• "Williams, who claimed she was familiarized..." --> "Williams, who was familiarized..." for simple

• Done

• "in which she frequented churches" --> "frequented churches"?

• Clarified

• The rest: Well written

• 

Composition

• "...is composed in common time and paces at a moderate tempo" --> Is this quite long? For me just simply "...is set at a moderate tempo..."

• Done

• "Although its main genre is pop rock,[8] Adams and Rebecca Nicholson of The Guardian denoted the song as delving into pop, more than the band's previous material" --> The first sentence, "Although... pop rock" sounds weird. Is that the critics' thought or the band's statement?

• It's the official sheet music statement.

• "The former also compared it to the works of Incubus; Nicholson stated" --> "...works of Incubus, stated..."

• Gramatically and sense-wise incorrect. I added a connector (while) however I mean that one journalist compared it to Incubus and the other (Nicholson) said the other stuff.

• "Jon Dolan of Rolling Stone characterized it as "soul-powered"" --> Can we write that "...characterized the soul elements..."?

• "Jon Dolan of Rolling Stone characterized the soul elements"? That implies that the reader already knew that the song had soul elements and we still have to tell them how he characterized them. It's best if we keep it the way it is.

• "to the higher note" --> redundant

• Removed

• "...helped Williams belt out ..." --> belt out change to "sing" or something like that

• Changed.

• "...they predominantly feature a sarcastic tone" --> "...which predominantly..."

• Not quite; it would become an incorrect sentence. I reworded it differently.

More to come Simon (talk) 01:34, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Waiting for Tonight... No, take your time! :) — prism △ 21:17, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

• The third day, let's do this for real

Critical

• "...with many of whom deeming" --> deemed
• "...a standout song" --> standout is already a noun

• I've removed the second part of the sentence.

• " For Stereogum, Chris DeVille remarked that song" --> that the song

• Done

• " Jon Dolan from Rolling Stone commented that Williams transitions to different musical genres on Paramore with an "I-will-survive warrior priestess" attitude, including on "Ain't It Fun"" --> this sentence has a problem. Where's the verb?

• commented, transitions, including. However, I've reworded the sentence.

• "The latter" --> "latter"/"former" usually used if there are two subjects mentioned. Try another one

• Done

• "and amount a high number of views on YouTube" --> I'm not sure that "amount" is a verb

• It is. — prism △ 16:25, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

• The rest: in good shape, well coveraged and well written

(More to come...)

Chart

• I think that the debut position should be before the peak position

Video

• "Peer stated that she wanted the video...were based on other already-existent records" --> unsourced?

Certifications

• Wow, the additional flag just makes the table looks good But I'm afraid that the source is not-so-reliable. Simon (talk) 05:07, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

@HĐ: I've already addressed all the concerns raised yesterday but I forgot to update this page... I think this is ready for a GA now. :) — prism △ 10:17, 21 June 2014 (UTC)