Talk:Ahiarmiut

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Valentiores in topic Syllabic used in "Inland Inuit" section

Broken External Links edit

There are controversial claims in this article. It is of some concern that External Links 3 and 4 are currently broken. Link 1 is, in fact, another link to Farley Mowat.

Farley Mowat is a known confabulator which means that this article requires some special attention regardless of his near cult figure status in Canada.

G. Robert Shiplett 02:53, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Propose merger edit

Barring definitive ethnological evidence, please consider merging with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caribou_Inuit Caribou Inuit.

Many of these claims to being a "people" have no factual basis within a single language group within a common culture. For example, not being covered by specific treaty due to a missing reference does not constitute a "people" anymore than would being missed by a census.

Wikipedia articles claiming starvation in Canada or elsewhere should be referenced, in this case to to Canadian archives regardless of opinions concerning the authorities of the day - as a matter of historical research principles.

This article currently reads: " Many Ihalmiut starved. (Damas, 2002) "

I have been unable to find a quote to this effect by David Damas in his published work. Almost all references available to me refer back to Mowat himself, a known confabulator and not an historian, however popular as a writer and public figure.

This article reads like more of Mowat's indignation, regardless of the historical and ethnological facts. In Canada, history and ethnology are highly politicized; a non-Canadian editor would be an asset especially where matters required to deal with caribou and native peoples as documented matters of fact.

G. Robert Shiplett 03:14, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Non-Mowat link for Further Reading edit

"Relocating Eden: the image and politics of Inuit exile in the Canadian Arctic" by Alan R. Marcus, Dartmouth College, 1995 is not listed, nor is his earlier "Out in the cold: the legacy of Canada's Inuit relocation experiment in the high Arctic" of 1992.

G. Robert Shiplett 03:23, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Unusual Reference edit

Reference 11 currently reads:

"Publisher description for Walking on the land / Farley Mowat.". worldcatlibraries.org. Retrieved 2007-12-24.

A publisher description of a Mowat book may be appropriate in an article on a book by Mowat, but it is rather bizarre in this context. Do we have a single such anthropological or ethnological or historical article referencing an entry in Library Journal?

G. Robert Shiplett 03:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

One possible authority: Frédéric Laugrand edit

My one reservation aside from Frédéric Laugrand being himself involved in something other than anthropological study is that he is a PhD from Laval who teaches at Laval. The practice of hiring one's own graduates is always worrisome, but he has authored more than one relevant work.

The objectivity of anthropologists has been an issue of repeat concern, so again, an editor is needed who is in a position to assess these claims in terms of documents, evidence, established facts and matters remaining undetermined or controversial.

Frédéric Laugrand, U. Laval, Canada

G. Robert Shiplett 03:43, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

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Updating article to 2019 edit

In light of the apology on the part of the Canadian government for the forced relocation, this article is being updated with more solid references. Some of the content written by this user from the Ennadai Lake article will be temporarily used here.Oceanflynn (talk) 18:16, 17 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Oceanflynn (talk) 18:16, 17 January 2019 (UTC)Reply

Syllabic used in "Inland Inuit" section edit

While I am not a linguist or expert on the Ihalmiut (at least I am Nunavummiuq), the second syllabic used in "The Ihalmiut ᐃᐦᐊᓪᒥᐅᑦ", the "ᐦ" [roughly "h" in English] is not an Inuktitut syllabic, though it would be right for Cree or Ojibwe syllabics. The "The Ihalmiut ᐃᓴᓪᒥᐅᑦ" from the first line of the article is correct in Inuktitut, using "ᓴ".

Refer to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuktitut_syllabics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Cree_syllabics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ojibwe_writing_systems#Ojibwe_syllabics — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valentiores (talkcontribs) 18:06, 26 March 2020 (UTC)Reply