Talk:Afrique Victime

New article - avenues for expansion

I created this article as a stub with basic information to be added on. If you'd like to help expand it, here are some ideas:

• Chart performance - I've tried, and I don't know where to find this information.
• Personnel - haven't found a reliable source yet.
• Album ratings infobox
• Description of album content and style

Riverhugger (talk) 07:20, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Afrique Victime/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: TheNuggeteer (talk · contribs) 04:48, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: PerfectSoundWhatever (talk · contribs) 16:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Sorry User:TheNuggeteer, but this article is a long way from meeting the GA criteria, so I would have to quickfail it. It fails GA criterion #3, due to not being broad in its coverage. Almost all sections are undeveloped, and sources clearly exist to build out these sections. Here are a few points if you still seek to bring this article to GA:

• There is no information on when/how the album was recorded, and what happened during the writing process.  Done
• There is no information on any of the songs, how they are structured, how they sound, what instruments they use, what genres they are.
• The rock/blues/assouf part is unsourced (big no-no for genres, see WP:GWAR) and is inexplicably under "track listing"  Done
• Reception is three sentences despite there being ~10 full length reviews in reputable publications.
• Personnel list is unsourced  Done
• Reception should be higher than charts. You can use the ordering of the headers in MOS:ALBUM as a guide.  Done
• Information about their touring would be useful. As well, a section on the release.
• The album's title should not be bolded in "Background"; it is already bolded in the lead.  Done
• Should be more information about the "companion documentary"
• Why is there a header2 "Afrique Victime" under "Meaning"? No reason to make a subsection when its the only thing in the parent section. Done
• Discuss themes, political context, etc. in more depth.
• "Sexism" should not be capitalized Done
• Other than the metacritic sentence being gramatically poor, "a popular song/album reviewer" is incorrect. Metacritic is a review aggregator, not a review site itself. Also, I think that the ranking was referring to user scores. (I'm not sure we use that)  Done
• The infobox gives a recording location of "Niamey, Niger", but the prose gives many others. Keep in mind we usually only use allmusic's prose, not database entries.
• Add accompanying images to help illustrate the text. See Windswept Adan or It Was Hot, We Stayed in the Water for example articles.  Done

Quick spotcheck

from this version.

• ref 4: only has the rating. all good.  Done
• ref 9: this is a duplicate ref with [1]. references check out.  Done
• ref 17: all good. If you use this for prose, (which you should) add the author (Allison Hussey)  Done
• ref 31: just a chart, all good  Done
• ref 34: another chart, all good  Done

I would recommend for you to read other album GAs/FAs to get an idea of the level of quality required for these articles. Short album GAs are very rare, because I find that music publications tend to write longer articles, and usually there are interviews to be found. For example, I wrote an album GA on an album with essentially only 3 reviews (Don't Wake Me Up) and I still was able to write out each section into a good paragraph and cover all the broad points. If you are intending to continue improving this article, please feel free to message me on my talk page, as I have decent experience writing album articles. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 16:26, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

@PerfectSoundWhatever: Do you think an interview by Reverb would fix the recording process problem? I've heard that interviews are sometimes not reliable. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 23:34, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Note: I added it anyway, be free to revert it. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 23:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

The Reverb page should be fine. The Reception section should be above track listing and personnel. The T in the Touring header should be uncapitalized.

Keep in mind: When I said the article lacks information on X, I mean a comprehensive, well-researched paragraph should be included, not a couple of sentences. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 01:45, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

User:PerfectSoundWhatever, I saw the review here before I saw the article, and I agree with you completely. I'm going to make some MOS edits. BTW I saw them last month here in Birmingham: great show. Drmies (talk) 01:53, 9 July 2024 (UTC)