Talk:African mpox epidemic
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Not a pandemic
editIt was not declared a pandemic. It was declared a PUBLIC HEALTH EMERGENCY OF INTERNATIONAL CONCERN 100.34.203.87 (talk) 18:11, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 15 August 2024
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African mpox epidemic → 2024 mpox epidemic – The first case has been reported outside of Africa today, in Sweden.[1] Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 17:04, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: Coinciding with the global health emergency declaration, it makes sense to move the article to a more general focus. Noble Attempt (talk) 17:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support since it's a global emergency and it's no longer just in Africa. Benpiano800 (talk) 19:32, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: I co-sign the previous statements. Plus, as noted by the Public Health Agency of Sweden itself,[2] it's very likely that even more imported cases will emerge across Europe and other continents in the next weeks, so there will definitely be some work to do on the article in order to reflect those changes. --Oltrepier (talk) 19:33, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support If the 2022 global health emergency is any indication, it will spread, including to the US and Europe. This allows us to get ahead of it and keep the information on this round of mPOX infection organized on a single page Schwinnspeed (talk) 19:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: Seems now that it is confirmed to have spread beyond Africa it should be renamed/moved. Allemannster (talk) 19:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: Aside from it being declared a global, having the year in the title just makes more sense and is more consistent with other articles of it's kind. win8x (talking | spying) 20:11, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose — The nominator's rationale is not false. However, an epidemic is local to a region. The correct term for that is a pandemic, but this is not a pandemic. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 20:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- @ElijahPepe I didn't think about it at all, to be honest...
- What about "2024 mpox outbreak", then? Oltrepier (talk) 20:24, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe adding 2023–2024 to the article name too, since the outbreak first began in localized areas in 2023. Because the outbreak features Clade I mpox virus instead of Clade II predominant during the 2022–2023 mpox outbreak, it might be considered to add "Clade I" to the article name too in order to distinguish this outbreak from the 2022–2023 outbreak, although this is just a potential consideration on my part rather than a suggestion or recommendation. Noble Attempt (talk) 20:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Good points indeed, I would support 2023–2024 mpox outbreak too. Not sure if "Clade I" is needed, as the dates (2022–2023 and 2023–2024) are already disambiguating. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support for 2023-2024 mpox outbreak. wd-Ryan (Talk) 01:54, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why do we need to include a range of years when we have no idea when it will end? I think '2023 mpox outbreak' is more precise. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 03:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- If it's not over by 2025 we can always change it to "2023-2025 mpox outbreak." Benpiano800 (talk) 04:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Why do we need to include a range of years when we have no idea when it will end? I think '2023 mpox outbreak' is more precise. LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 03:03, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support for 2023-2024 mpox outbreak. wd-Ryan (Talk) 01:54, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Good points indeed, I would support 2023–2024 mpox outbreak too. Not sure if "Clade I" is needed, as the dates (2022–2023 and 2023–2024) are already disambiguating. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:26, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe adding 2023–2024 to the article name too, since the outbreak first began in localized areas in 2023. Because the outbreak features Clade I mpox virus instead of Clade II predominant during the 2022–2023 mpox outbreak, it might be considered to add "Clade I" to the article name too in order to distinguish this outbreak from the 2022–2023 outbreak, although this is just a potential consideration on my part rather than a suggestion or recommendation. Noble Attempt (talk) 20:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support For 2023–2024 mpox epidemic name change and per Chaotic Enby. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:20, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree. Name should be “2024 Mpox Epidemic” 100.34.203.87 (talk) 00:53, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support Make sense since it's considered global now TarotSport1 (talk) 01:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support "2023–2024 mpox epidemic", it started in 2023 and is global. - Sebbog13 (talk) 01:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose still hasnt reached insane levels outside of Africa. Redirect it when its on the same level of COVID-19.
- 🤓 WeaponizingArchitecture | scream at me 🤓 01:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Most of the cases are in Africa, so I believe the current article name is still appropriate. If the epidemic spreads further out of Africa, I would support the name change. -
Waterardwater?(talk | contribs) 02:14, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: Most of the cases are in Africa, so I believe the current article name is still appropriate. If the epidemic spreads further out of Africa, I would support the name change. -
- Support This outbreak has just spread to Sweden and Pakistan, also Saudi Arabia as well. MarioJump83 (talk) 03:10, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per elijahpepe@wikipedia and
Waterard. Would support Oltrepier's and Noble Attempt's suggestions for replacing the word "epidemic" with "outbreak", as the latter can refer to a local or intercontinental occurrence. . . . That said, if "African mpox epidemic" is going to be retained by the number of votes, I'm going to oppose that, too, because in Category:21st-century epidemics, only two events carry the word "African", which somehow has the effect of being possessive determiners (it's their epidemics, not ours), perhaps because most of the other events in that category either have no geographic determiners or name their places of occurrence as their modifier instead of using a demonym. Bagoto (talk) 03:14, 16 August 2024 (UTC)- I oppose as well. There are still only less than five cases outside of Africa Agentpathaan (talk) 05:16, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: The outbreak now meets the conditions to be considered a pandemic, and thus should be renamed accordingly. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 08:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Kirby, Paul (15 August 2024). "First case of more contagious mpox found outside Africa". BBC. Retrieved 15 August 2024.
- ^ "One case of mpox clade I reported in Sweden". www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se. Public Health Agency of Sweden. 15 August 2024. Retrieved 15 August 2024.
Map needs updating
editThe text says there are now cases in several East African countries, but the map doesn't show that. TooManyFingers (talk) 00:06, 16 August 2024 (UTC)