Talk:Advanced life support

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removed algorithm as it is incorrect, in ACLS it is 6 h's and 6 t's see cardiac arrest for correct h's and t's. I will place a new correct algorithm. Medicellis (talk) 04:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Clumsily written sentence

Advanced life support (ALS) implies that an emergency medical technician (EMT) is capable of performing advanced life support skills as either an EMT-I (Intermediate) or an EMT-P (paramedic), commonly referred to simply as a paramedic or medic.

The repetition of the phrase "advanced life support" in a way that makes this a circular definition is not the only instance of clumsy thinking in the composition of this sentence. Michael Hardy (talk) 16:21, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Merger Proposal with ACLS

It's obvious that both the ALS and ACLS pages share content; and at least here the the UK, we use the term ALS instead of ACLS. I feel that the articles should be merged and reviewed; both pages are in need of major updates. I am quite happy to do this, I just don't want to upset anyone by getting started. FinalCoyote (talk) 15:56, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

These are different. ALS descriptors a type of paramedic. ACLS is a technique.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:39, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I agree, they are different. ALS could discuss eCPR, ECMO, ACLS, ATLS, mechanical ventilation and other methods of advanced life support, and the difference between what is considered basic and what is advanced. | pulmonological ^{talk • contribs} 16:41, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

These should remain seperate. ALS, at least in the states refers to various advanced procedures but are not specific to ACLS related procedures. Jmtaylor90 (talk) 15:27, 2 January 2012 (UTC)jmtaylor90

Absolutely not. ACLS is only a small part of ALS. Trying to merge these two topics would be the same as trying to merge "Automobile" with "Chevrolet"--Arctikkat (talk) 20:04, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

In view of the lack of consensus I have removed the two tags. LT90001 (talk) 09:57, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

I would like to update the ACLS and ALS pages. I am not surprised to find that a merger has historically been proposed and I would like to propose it again. Could someone, who is against the merger, provide here an academic source that truly delineates the difference between ALS and ACLS? Various authoritative text books such as "Braunwald’s Heart Disease: A Textbook of Cardiovascular Medicine", "Miller's Anesthesia", "Rosens Emergency medicine" and of course, the AHA do not make a distinction between ALS and ACLS. I think the distinction between ACLS (being mostly arrhythmia management) vs ALS (being advanced procedures such as ECMO and TTM) is antiquated because the AHA now mentions these advanced procedures in their ACLS publications (https://cpr.heart.org/en/resuscitation-science/cpr-and-ecc-guidelines/adult-basic-and-advanced-life-support#9.)WrrMD (talk) 13:36, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Oppose: the textbooks we use cover ACLS distinctly, suggesting that it is an independently notable subtopic best discussed separately. Specifically, Kumar & Clark's Clinical Medicine has a section dedicated to ACLS as part of Chapter 30 (10th edition); similarly for Goldman-Cecil Medicine, Twenty Sixth Edition, in their section on Approach to Cardiac Arrest and Life-Threatening Arrhythmias. Klbrain (talk) 14:46, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Closing the 2022 proposal, given the uncontested objection and no support. Klbrain (talk) 10:35, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

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