Talk:Adrian Chiles/Archive 1

"...imperfect understanding of the language's verb declensions and cases..."

As far as I know, no language has a verbs with declensions and cases - Croatian certainly doesn't. Verbs have conjugations; nouns, adjectives and articles have declensions and cases. If this statement is a direct quotation from Chiles or an article about him, can you give the source, put it in quotation marks and, preferably add (sic) afterwards. If it is not a quotation, the remark should be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harm1542 (talk • contribs) 10:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Christine Bleakley

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/article151215.ece Why isn't this in the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.163.11 (talk) 21:15, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Because it's the "News of the World" and therefore likely to be WP:BOLLOCKS? Seriously, for a biography, we would need far more reliable sources than that. Rodhullandemu 21:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Are you trying to suggest every single story in the NoTW can't be used as a citation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.96.109.201 (talk) 09:32, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Pretty much, we don't consider tabloids such as the News of the screws suitable sources to make such statements about living figures. --Cameron Scott (talk) 10:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

There's no evidence, so we don't include it. Not only is the source unreliable, it only states claims rather than facts. Jim Michael (talk) 12:53, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm re-adding - it's relevant to the personal life section. However, I will make clear these were only claims; it clearly shouldn't be included as fact. I also object to Wikipedia editors deciding that national newspapers are 'unreliable' because of snobbery about tabloids. Smurfmeister (talk) 08:54, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

You can object all you like, that is how we operate in regards to BLPs and the use of tabloids such as the News of the world, it is long-standing policy and community consensus. if you re-add the information it will be removed, if you persist, you will be blocked - that's the start and end of it. --Cameron Scott (talk) 08:57, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Who is this 'we'? Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia that ANYONE can edit. On another topic, I have removed the Gollygate section; that is relevant to The One Show, not Chiles' personal life.Smurfmeister (talk) 09:04, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

::: 'We' is the community, yes anyone can edit but only within the norms that the community deems acceptable - and it deems that using the news of the world as a source to add a rumour to an BLP article is unacceptable. --Cameron Scott (talk) 09:06, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

I have replaced the reference with one from the Daily Mail; as this article is already referenced elsewhere on the page I presume you have no concerns over its reliability? Smurfmeister (talk) 09:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

The daily Mail is also considered a tabloid and that would also be unacceptable to use as a source for adding tittletattle and rumours to articles. --Cameron Scott (talk) 09:09, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Then I'll remove references to that article altogether. I'll leave it to you to find an 'acceptable' source for the Chiles-Garvey divorce announcement. Smurfmeister (talk) 09:11, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

That is a good idea. --Cameron Scott (talk) 09:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Adrian Chiles' accent

Are you sure that Adrian Chiles has a Black Country accent? He doesn't sound like a 'yam-yam'to me. If anything he sounds mainly Brummie with occasional twangs of the accents of Hagley( which is in Worcs.)and RP/London. I've met many people with Black Country accents(I come from Walsall)and I haven't heard a single one that sounds like Adrian.Simon B 7 (talk) 00:19, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Adrian Chiles does have a Black Country accent, but people from Birmingham do not. The Birmingham accent shares some similarities, but is distinct. As he has a Black Country accent and went to school in Hagley (which is in the Black Country, not Birmimgham), is it definite that he was born in the city? I am aware that the BBC website refers to him as being from Birmingham, but they are hardly beyond making lazy generalisations.

"As a result he occupies the unique role of representing the interests "average" UK man in regard to contemporary issues, football appreciation and popular culture." Who put this unsourced statement on here? Sounds like it has been copied from his personal website! I cannot really argue with this, as an average UK man myself I suppose he is fairly representative, but that is my personal opinion. Needs sourcing or deleting. Spanker LUFC 14:08, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

"North Worcestershire Accent"? Seriously? What pish. Did no one think of consulting a local? There is no such thing as a North Worcestershire Accent, The people in Redditch and Kidderminster sound nothing like Adrian Chiles. He has a Birmingham Accent through and through. How do I know? I myself have a Birmingham Accent. I am deleting this nonsense about 'North Worcestershire'. (Umbongo91 (talk) 02:16, 31 May 2010 (UTC))

Guardian interview

My body and soul: Adrian Chiles. If anyone wants it. He talks about drinking, keeping healthy and "When I was 11 I fell off my bike and chopped my willy half off".  Cargoking  talk  09:09, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Chiles axed from Daybreak

chiles now axed from ITV Daybreak. Official. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.179.106.51 (talk) 10:30, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

References

Croatian vs. Serbo-Croatian

Serbo-Croatian is a language that does not exist. Stop insulting Croatia. It was an artificial language. Croatia is an independent country, a member of the EU where Croatian is an official language. Those of you who don't speak any of them should stay out of this. Adrian's mother is Croatian and I can assure you she did not teach him Serbian or Serbo-Croatian. Norwegian, Swedish, and Danish are all very much alike but you don't make them a one language do you? Disgrace I must say. Wikipedia is not a place for Serbian nationalists to deny the existence of Croatia, Croatian culture, and language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 11raccoon1 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Um, according to Wikipedia, Serbo-Croatian does exist as a language - see the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Croatian 2.31.166.237 (talk) 11:47, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Um, according to the same Wikipedia article, "The term "Serbo-Croatian" (or synonyms) is not officially used in any of the successor countries of former Yugoslavia." I think that suggests it's a term imposed by outsiders. MrDemeanour (talk) 19:38, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2014

"He supports the Croatian national team, as his mother is Croatian." This line is not only without a valid reference to support, but is factually incorrect and should be removed. 81.105.13.104 (talk) 15:48, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Done I have removed the sentence per WP:UNSOURCED. Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia. Mz7 (talk) 20:49, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Adrian Chiles/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Biographical information is good, although more external sources would be useful. The article needs an infobox and photo. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 10:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Last edited at 10:08, 11 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 06:44, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Incorrect children listing

The page currently says that Adrian married Maria Walsh after his divorce and that he has one son from this marriage. Both of these statements are incorrect. He doesn't know anyone called Maria Walsh and he doesn't have a son. He has (only) two daughters from his marriage to Jane Garvey. I work with Adrian currently and can vouch for this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timfromwestnorwood (talk • contribs) 08:48, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

This was added by a vandal [1], I have removed it. January (talk) 16:53, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Contradictory income figures

In the ITV section it states that he signed a four year contract worth £1 million per year but then further down in the article it states that following the expiry of this contract he signed a new contract with ITV with his pay being cut by £1 million per year.

Whilst both articles have sources to back them up, the article doesn't make much sense with the inclusion of both bits of information, as it would suggest the new contract was for £0 per year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.196 (talk) 06:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2018

His mother's first name is Ljerka (pronounced as: Woojoorka) 2A02:C7D:3EC:A300:ADAE:7622:F8FC:D22D (talk) 13:01, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. In addition, please explain why you feel this fact is noteworthy for inclusion in an encyclopedia article about him. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 15:35, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Ref for separation/divorce

The reference given is a 2007 radio programme, when the separation was in 2008 and divorce 2009. That said I have not been able to find an alternative I am happy with.Ancienterracht (talk) 11:30, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2021

Adding information to the section subtitltled ITV about a gaffe Chiles made in June 2014 during an international foorball match between England and Ecudor in Miami. Brozovera (talk) 22:05, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Pupsterlove02 talk • contribs 22:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Beard

Consider changing

In 2010, Chiles grew a beard,[37] which was later shaved off by his One Show co-host Christine Lampard for Sport Relief, raising £60,000 in the process.[38]

to

In 2010, Chiles grew a beard,[37] which was later shaved off by his One Show co-host Christine Bleakley for Sport Relief, raising £60,000 in the process.[38]

because she was not married to Lampard at the time of the barbery or indeed at any time whilst a host of the show.