Talk:Acura Legend

The Legend's Competitors

Although the Legend served as Acura/Honda's top-spec vehicle, it was not neccesarily a competitor to the top-spec vehicles from other manufacturers. It's realitive small size and emphasis on sporty driving means that vehicles like the Caddy Deville, which are large to very large and have an emphasis on comfort, are not and were not competitive with the Legend. There is also the fact that vehicles like the Deville would have been much more expensive than the Legend; these are the same reasons why it was not competitive with the Lexus LS400 or Audi V8/A8, as these vehciles would be more like the Deville. The Seville, which is smaller and sportier than the Deville, would have been the primary target for the Legend (although I could certainly argue that Caddys do not appeal at all to Acura buyers and vice versa). I'm going to re-lit the Seville as Caddillac's competitor to the Legend, please refrain from changing it back.

Please sign your comments. Thanks! Ste4k 06:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Merge request

The rationale for the merge request is that the standards adopted by WikiProject Automobiles specify that an article on a given model should be named the way the model is named in the home market. Acura Legend and Acura RL are American-market-only nameplates applied to the same car (made it the same factory) known elsewhere, including its "home" Japanese market, as Honda Legend. Therefore, it is only logical to have all the models and generations described as Honda Legend, with redirects and explanation of North American marketing.

Regards, Bravada, talk - 09:34, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Acura

Would you not have to merge it into a "Honda" Legend tho? Not to mention the Acura TSX will have to become a Honda Accord (which would get awfully confusing differentiating the popular American Accord to its Japanese counterpart). The Acura pages here will be awfully slim with these merges. Perhaps they can just be linked instead of merged?

Don't really understand what you mean. The standard is to have articles on cars under their names in original markets. Bravada, talk - 17:47, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

The Acura TSX and Honda Accord are excellent examples that show why to keep separte articles. First of all, the TSX is not the same as the Jap/Euro Accord. It is based on it, but not the same. Enough differentiation exists. Secondly, the North American(/Asian/...) market Accord is known in Japan as the Honda Inspire. At one time, the U.S. designed and manufactured (home market: U.S.!?) TL were exported to Japan, where it was sold as the Inspire and Saber. Should Honda Accord be merged into Honda Inspire? Obviously not. Brand engineering complicates things. Just read the article on the Inspire about Inspire/Saber/TL/Vigor/Accord (non Jap/Euro). It isn't always simple to follow and document the history of a nameplate and associated nameplate, especially in the case of Japanese (and some Korean) nameplates, as the Inspire/Saber/TL/Vigor/Accord (non Jap/Euro) example shows. Manufacturers use the same name for different vehicles in different markets. Besides Honda Accord, there's Ford Fusion and Toyota Camry (China model - completely different, based on Australian-designed Australian-market Toyota Aurion). No problems there. But by the "home market name" reasoning, Honda Accord (JDM) would replace the content of Honda Accord, and Honda Accord would move to Honda Inspire. But then there would be problems with the older generations of the Accord, the TL, Vigor, etc. Honda vehicles do not fit into the mold of ""home market naming" because of their indiscriminate use of nameplates. While home market naming may work better with Ford Endeavour/Everest, Ford Ranger/Mazda, several Opel-designed models, etc., there are other examples of problems/disputes, like the GM Daewoo-sourced vehicles and their names - Aveo/Kalos/Gentra for example. By the home market naming convention, Aveo would have to go to a disambig that leads to Kalos and Gentra, the home-market names. But the Aveo nameplate itself has a history (that includes both vehicles) and as such, its own identity. More examples for why home market naming is silly sometimes: Hyundai Turbulence, Hyundai Tuscani, and Hyundai Verna, all home market names. Also, home market naming would result in redirects for many Lexuses, Infinitis, and (older) Acuras.

Type II engine

Where is the source of the Type II engine being 260bhp and having 0-60 in 5.7 secs? as far as i know it should be 230-232bhp, and 0-60 was more like 6.7-7.2 sec at best. -- Cirilobeto (talk) 02:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Project XX HX.

Considering how much of the car was a direct result of project xx, it seems stupid to consign it to a trivia section. Could someone work it into the article please.(86.31.184.151 (talk) 14:00, 28 December 2008 (UTC))

Merger proposal

Feel free to comment at Talk:Legend (disambiguation)#Merger proposal.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:43, 18 August 2014 (UTC)