Talk:Acuera

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Needs disambiguation (Acuera the man from Acuera the tribe/territory)further references and hyperlinks in added text. Qureus1 (talk) 14:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Copying from Florida of the Inca

Most of the text in this article is copied, with minimal editing and almost no attribution, from Garcilaso de la Vega's History of the Conquest of Florida (also known as Florida of the Inca). Vega's account differs in a number of points from accounts left by members of the de Soto expedition (Milanich and Hudson, in Hernando de Soto and the Indians of Florida, state that de la Vega confused Acuera and Ocale). Even if attribution of the text had been clearer, we really do not need whole paragraphs copied from sources of dubious accuracy. I will shortly remove the material copied from Vega's book, and add material based on more recent scholarship. -- Donald Albury 00:31, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I just replaced the whole article. Most of it had been copied from Florida of the Inca, and the rest was unreferenced. I have used recently published (within the last 20 years or less) books by well-known historians/archaeologists as sources. I will be adding more as I get a change to dig into Worth's books. -- Donald Albury 11:37, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Good work. I have Worth's book; he discusses the Acuera as a chiefdom and notes that other missionized villages near Acuera village may have been part of it, or perhaps a separate chiefdom(s). I'll see what I can do.Cúchullain ^t/c 12:32, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

The only copy of Worth I currently have access to is a reference copy at the library. I was going to read more in it, but it would be next week before I would have a chance, and taking notes in the library is not as easy as having the book at hand when I'm editing. I plan to check out a copy of Hann's A history of the Timucua Indians and missions today to see what it has. This article has been on my watch list for years, but I never really looked at it until a couple of days ago. -- Donald Albury 16:17, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Same here. When it popped back up on my watchlist I remembered noticing serious problems with the article but I never got around to dealing with it. Now's as good a time as any. Both volumes of Worth have good information; I also have a copy of Hann and will check up in it if I can dig it up. Unfortunately a lot of my books are going to be inaccessible for a while.Cúchullain ^t/c 17:05, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Got the Hann and started reading it. Not an awful lot about Acuera, but I'll see what it has that isn't in Milanich's books. -- Donald Albury 15:02, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Noticed you are overhauling this article, long needed and looking good! Here is a map based on Hudson showing location during de Sotos "visit" if you are interested in adding as an illustration [1]. Cheers, Heiro 03:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for reminding me of that image. -- Donald Albury 14:13, 4 July 2012 (UTC)