Talk:Acacia pycnantha/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: J Milburn (talk · contribs) 19:14, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Happy to offer a review. I (knowingly) saw my first banksia on Friday, by the way- the Glasgow Botanic Gardens has at least a few. One was labelled as B. ericifolia, but I couldn't see any other labels- definitely at least one other species! J Milburn (talk) 19:14, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

• "glabrous", "oblanceolate" and "axillary" are unexplained jargon. "much longer internodes than those of A. pycnantha, and that the phyllodes appeared to have three glands rather than the single one of the latter species" is also a little jargony.

glabrous --> bare and smooth (changed), "oblanceolate" and "axillary" now linked, "internode" likned to Plant stem where it is explained and imaged right at the top of the article, "gland" linked to Nectar#Extrafloral_nectaries... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:09, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• "in the species' native" Personal preference and something of a sidepoint, but this is is a good example of why I prefer s-apostrophe-s for belonging to a noun ending in s. Right now, this is ambiguous as to whether it belongs to multiple species or a single one; if "species's" was used, it would not be. No action required if you prefer simply xxxs-apostrophe for belongs to single xxxs.

tweaked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• A. leiophylla is not linked at first mention

linked Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:27, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• "Queensland botanist Les Pedley reclassified the species as Racosperma pycnanthum in 2003, in his proposal to reclassify almost all Australian members of the genus into the new genus Racosperma,[17] however this name is treated as a synonym of its original name.[1]" This is slightly clunky- rephrasing would help

I have rejigged it a little - didn't want to break it into three sentences as I thought that sounded a tad wooden.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:38, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• "At Lake Hindmarsh Station in Victoria the aborigines referred to it as witch" Any chance of a link to the correct aboriginal language?

Done.--Melburnian (talk) 01:49, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• You mention in the description section that it's in Morocco, but this isn't mentioned in the distribution section

The mentions in the distribution section are where it's become weedy. I tried looking for anything on Morocco and could only find fragments talking about it being grown, but not how much or how extensively.... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:42, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• "On the phyllodes are located nectaries," A way to say things that is curious, this is

trying to sound like Yoda I was. Rephrased it I have. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:47, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• "Several species of honeyeater, including the white-naped, yellow-faced,[8] New Holland,[30] and occasionally white-plumed, crescent,[8] white-naped honeyeaters and Eastern spinebills, as well as the silvereye, striated, buff-rumped and brown thornbills have been observed foraging in this way." Could this be rephrased?

rejigged now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:32, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• "Monochaetia lutea" No link? Also, you mention some ecological relationships in the distribution sections which aren't expanded upon.

redlinked now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:15, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• "Golden wattle has been grown in temperate regions around the world for the tannin in its bark, which provides the highest yield of all the wattles." The tannin provides the highest yield, or the tree provides the highest yield of tannin? I'd be inclined to say the latter was correct, meaning the current phrasing is incorrect, but I may be wrong.

rejigged now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:15, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• "Acacia pycnantha exudes gum when stressed.[39] It was" The gum was, or the tree was? The tree seems to be the subject of the "it", but the gum makes more sense

rejigged now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:32, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• I'm not fussed at this stage, but if you're looking towards FAC... The cultivation section is a little choppy, and a little how-to-y

rejigged a bit Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:32, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

• "The date of gazettal was 1 September which was marked by a ceremony at the Australian National Botanic Gardens which included the planting of a golden wattle by Hazel Hawke, the Prime Minister’s wife." This is a little hard to follow, and "gazettal" is not a common term

reworked now Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Overall really nice. Sources look alright, but some of them might be challenged at FAC. The pictures are mostly great, but the sourcing on File:Acacia-pycnantha-bark-tons.gif is woefully inadequate. I'll be happy to promote once the issues I've raised have been dealt with. (Please double-check my edits.) J Milburn (talk) 19:59, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your review. I've been trying to track down the original source of the photo which I suspect is a book, but have no luck so far, so I have now removed it.--Melburnian (talk) 01:49, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Alright; I'm happy that this meets the good article criteria and I'm happy to promote. If you're looking at FAC, I'd recommend looking critically at the sources and filtering out any that aren't great, look into the ecology section (are there other parasites/symbionts worth mentioning?) and perhaps be aware of choppy sentences here and there. I've no doubt that it wouldn't take much further work to get this one FAC ready. J Milburn (talk) 18:18, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

thanks - very helpful - cool to imagine banksias in Glasgow - shoulda taken some snaps! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:51, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

They weren't outdoors- somewhere around here. There may have been more, but I only had time for a very quick walk around the main greenhouse. Great looking park, wish I had more time there. J Milburn (talk) 22:07, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

yeah that does look cool - must go sometime... Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:53, 10 September 2014 (UTC)