Talk:Abundance (Technocracy)

Removal of Economics Categories

This article does not contain information with respect to economics and thus is mis-categorized. I am seeking comment for removing the category tags linking this to economics related tages. Joel Kincaid 01:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes I agree that the current categories are not really very good. It already has one relevant category which is the Technocracy movement Category[1], that one is appropriate. So I would support the removal of the economics categories, however I don't know what other categories could replace them. It might only end up with one category. --Hibernian 03:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps utopian movements? Is there a political party associated with the group? Cheers -- Joel Kincaid 04:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Not the Techocracy Movement, if that is what you mean. Technocracy has always been firmly apolitical, if not anti-political, and despises being associated with anything to do with the word 'utopia'. --Kolzene 05:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Could you (or others) suggest better categories for this (and related) pages? I'm not familiar with this movement, but I can assure you that I am familiar with economics. I would find it odd to place an economics category on any pages related to this movement, given that it deals with issues of a world without scarcity (i.e. a world without an economic problem.) Cheers, Joel Kincaid 14:34, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

A world without some types of scarcity, but there will be more and more attention scarcity. Can't economics address abundancy by talking about the cost of an item being zero -- looking from the consumer's POV (and the consumer may go on to incorporate it into something else that might be sold/exchanged down the road)? I.e., "The Importance Of Zero In Destroying The Scarcity Myth Of Economics" (http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20061025/014811.shtml). selkins 16:04, 13 March 2007 (ET)

The short answer to the question above is no. In the absence of scarcity there is no "economic problem". Such issues might well be discussed elsewhere, but economics, as an academic discipline, would not be the place. Joel Kincaid 21:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding a new category

I have added the category "Information, knowledge, and uncertainty" as I have been trying to link this record to Robert Theobald - futurist. If this category doesn't fit, please remove it. Stellar 18:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Technocracy much?

Does this concept ONLY have any meaning/usage within the Technocracy movement, or is someone simply using the article as a soap box or whatever? Or I suppose perhaps the editor(s) in question may simply have got a bit carried away... Either way, it reads to me as though it could easily be renamed "Technocratic approach to Abundance" or such, as it stands. --OccasionalTomble 06:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Probably this article is a good candidate to consider looking to possibly delete. It is redundant to other Technocracy technate articles. skip sievert (talk) 21:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

As far as I know, the term wasn't invented by Technocracy, but it is heavily used by Technocrats. The term is an economic one, it simply means the opposite of Scarcity, so in that sense it's an important definition. BTW the article was originaly called Abundance (economics) --Hibernian (talk) 07:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Redirect page to Post scarcity

Post scarcity Seems like a good place to put this article page. It is kind of an orphan and it has been suggested to be merged into Technocratic movement... but that page already has the same info on it... so Post scarcity redirect seems to be applicable, that page has a good section on directly related material. skip sievert (talk) 04:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)