Talk:Abbie Hoffman

Latest comment: 3 months ago by Czar in topic Anarchist?

Anarchist? edit

Abbie has been categorized as a Jewish and American anarchist; I've certainly seen anarchists claim him as one of their own, but is there any quote in which he self-identifies as an anarchist, or even remotely expresses sympathy for anarchist thought? Are there any notable quotes of others attributing him the title of anarchist? If not, these two categories should be removed.--Cast (talk) 03:46, 6 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

In his 1980 autobiography, Soon to Be a Major Motion Picture, he refers to himself as an anarchist. I'll get the source in the article. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 03:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Ive never heard Abbie refer to himself as an anarchist ever. I honestly dont think he considered himself one, this is not to say that a modern day anarchist would not have Abbie Hoffman books in his shelf. If Abbie were to be classified, which I think is a narrow way of aproaching him anyhow, I would say that he considered himself an American Patriot. I remember visiting him in Massachusettes, and he took me see a statue of Paul Revere, whom Abbie considered a great hero, he told me the story of revere many times. He was a huge fan of the America Revolution, and if there was any dogma or political group he felt in aligned with, it would have been our American revolutionary founding fathers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AmericaH (talkcontribs) 21:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

I agree 100% that Abbie considered himself a patriot above all. And that's how he portrayed himself in Soon to Be a Major Motion Picture. I'll try to edit the lede to convey that self-identification.
With respect to whether Abbie was an anarchist, the standard for Wikipedia is verifiability. That means that we include information that is available in published sources and not personal conversations. In his autobiography, Abbie described himself as an anarchist. If he said elsewhere, such as an interview, that he wasn't an anarchist, we would have to weigh the credibility of the two sources. But until such a source is found, Abbie's description of himself as an anarchist is credible. — Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs) 00:15, 9 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

I haven't found this reference in Soon to Be a Major Motion Picture, nor is it still in the article (the editor mentioning proof above reverted its re-addition in 2015). If no one else has a citation, we should remove this category. (not watching, please {{ping}}) czar 01:09, 2 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

Dwight Macdonald calls Hoffman an anarchist offhandedly in an oral history with Avrich (Anarchist Voices, p. 470) but not finding substantiation beyond that. czar 17:52, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Forbidden edit

When I click on the reference now numbered 19, "Levitate the Pentagon", I get this reply: "Forbidden You don't have permission to access /orgs/cwluherstory/jofreeman/photos/Pentagon67.html on this server." I'll try to find an alternate source. Dgndenver (talk) 12:28, 16 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

My Dinner With Abbie edit

1989 film.directed by Nancy Cohen-koan, starring Abbie Hoffman on eve.of his 5oth birthday.Wom best in Struggle.for.Peace and Justice Vermont Earth Peace festival. Lambstar (talk) 02:08, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply