Talk:AA

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Michael Bednarek in topic Aabach

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I have removed the following since it does not appear that any are abbreviated AA:

I'm willing to put them back with sources. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:10, 21 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Redirect from the same page name?

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While working through disambiguations, I noticed that there is a page with the title "AA" that redirects to here, AA. How is that possible? There must be some hidden character I'm not seeing, because I can't link to that redirect page no matter what I try. — Gorthian (talk) 06:28, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Do you mean АА? It's Cyrillic. (Copy and paste titles into this web page to figure out what the hell they are). There is a page linking to that title, so I'll take a look, and then send to RfD. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 13:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
Wow. Now I can see it when I check the page source. Thank you for the clue! (and for the RfD) — Gorthian (talk) 18:19, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Merge

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A requested move discussion at Aa River resulted in a consensus to merge the contents of that page into this disambiguation page. A record of that discussion, together with my closing comments, is available here. Bradv 05:01, 16 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I have cleaned up the page and removed the cleanup tag and comment. The inclusion of rivers not actually named Aa and red-linked rivers called Aa without articles that mention Aa, have been removed: they may have made sense on a page about rivers called Aa, but not on the Aa disambiguation page. (Actually my first reaction on looking at the page was to split out the rivers!) Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:06, 16 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

Aabach

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@ZH8000: Thank you for your edit here. Where was it discussed before? Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:26, 17 April 2017 (UTC)Reply

@Shhhnotsoloud: The refered requested move discussion of the preceding #Merge section you were answering: Talk:Aa River. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZH8000 (talkcontribs) 00:54, 18 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
@ZH8000: OK, I though you meant the inclusion of Aabach has been discussed before. This is a disambiguation page for "Aa", not a list of rivers including those whose names mean Aa river. "Aabach" has no place in a disambiguation page for "Aa". Furthermore, Chli Aa (Sempachersee), which used to be a red link, should not redirect to Lake Sempach because "Chli Aa" is not mentioned in the target article. The redirect should be deleted WP:R#DELETE reason 10. Even if it was a redlink, "A link to a non-existent article (a "red link") should only be included on a disambiguation page when a linked article (not just other disambiguation pages) also includes that red link" (MOS:DABRL), which is why I deleted it. The same logic applies to Mönchaltorfer Aa. I hope this is helpful and explains why I have deleted some entires. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 05:10, 18 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
Well, I simply do not agree with your conclusion regarding Aabach. Probably, because I also speak German. There is actually no difference between an "Engelberger Aa", "Gross Aa", and an "Aabach", because Aabach simply means nothing else than "the river called Aa". Just because you can not understand it does not change its meaning. It is just a characteristic of the German language that compound nouns are written in one word instead of two as usually in English. So the translation "Aa River", or "Aa Creek" to be more precise, has the same argument to be part of this list as "Engelberger Aa" does. So your argumentation is inconsistent. The Aabach (Greifensee) is even exchangeably written as Aabach as well as Aa (just zoom in or out to see the two written forms). This interchangeable usage of Aa and Aabach, obvious to the educated reader, takes place quite often in the German speaking world, of course. And there are numerous Aas and Aabachs.
Further, if you have a personal problem with the current fact that rivers are included in the Aa DAB then you must challenge the referred decision to include it (it was not mine), instead of selectively deleting them.
The fact that these rivers are not included in the respective articles can easily be changed, though most are already mentioned in the respective articles. If they were missing, I added them; actually, only "Mönchaltorfer Aa" was lacking. You were not looking carefully enough;-) -- ZH8000 (talk) 12:41, 18 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
I am seeking the advice of other editors at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Rivers in disambiguation page Aa. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:04, 19 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
I agree that waterways which are called "Aa" in their native language, even in compound nouns, should be listed overleaf. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:24, 20 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
Micheal, you mismatch here something. The Aabach does obviously not call the river dfferently than "Aa"; as already several times explained, Aabach directly translates to "Aa Creek". -- ZH8000 (talk) 13:05, 22 April 2017 (UTC)Reply
HZ8000, I don't understand what "mismatch" means in this context. I suspect you misunderstood my comment. I agree with your position that "Aabach", "Kleine Aa", "fooian Aa" should all be listed at Aa#Rivers, or did I misunderstand your position? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:34, 23 April 2017 (UTC)Reply