Talk:30 Rockefeller Plaza/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Indy beetle (talk · contribs) 20:41, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

• Was fortunate enough to see SNL live here a few weeks ago and got to see this wonderful building up close! I've always loved its design. I'll start the review shortly. -Indy beetle (talk) 20:41, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

The article seems well-researched and appropriately sourced. I don't have too many comments:

• In the History section, it's not exactly clear why the Rockefeller family wanted to put a center here. It goes straight from the opera house plan being scrapped to the center architects' negotiations with media companies to throw up a tower.
  • Construction of Rockefeller Center says: With the lease still in effect, Rockefeller had to quickly devise new plans so that the three-block Columbia site could become profitable. I've copied that sentence over here. I think the sentence may have actually been in the article but was then removed. Epicgenius (talk) 21:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
• What was the final cost of the building? It seems almost incredible that this was thrown up during the Great Depression.
  • The budget of the RCA Building was shared with several other buildings. They all came out to $102 billion. I've added that now. Epicgenius (talk) 21:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
• Did any workers die during construction?
  • I could not find any reference to workers being killed during construction. It may seem strange for a project of this size, but there have been comparable projects where no one died, such as the Chrysler Building. Epicgenius (talk) 21:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
• What exactly was the Rockefeller Group? A holding company for the management of the center? It sort of comes out of nowhere and then goes bankrupt.
  • Good catch - I've now clarified that it was the Rockefeller family's investment company. Epicgenius (talk) 21:06, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
• The link to the reception about the whole Rockefeller Center is instructive, but is there not more out there about the response to this tower specifically?
  • This will probably be the most difficult issue for me to resolve. Most critics either appraised Rockefeller Center as a whole, or they reviewed 30 Rockefeller Plaza only in relation to its surrounding buildings. I will work on this over the next few days. Epicgenius (talk) 21:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
• Any information on fire safety? Does the building have a sprinkler system and/or long stairwells in case of emergency? It seems the only stairwells mention are for stylistic purposes.
  • Yes, this building does have a fire-sprinkler system and emergency stairwells, but these are standard features in high-rises in NYC. There are also fire alarms, but again these are standard features. I did not feel they merited particular mention for that reason, although you evidently disagree. Given my explanation, do you still want me to add details about these features? Epicgenius (talk) 21:02, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
    • I was mostly curious about the stairwells, as I figured it would be odd for a building to not have any (and considering the mention of and costs of the elevators). If possible, a simple "The building was constructed with X emergency stairwells" or something similar will do.

-Indy beetle (talk) 23:07, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

• That makes sense. I have added that clarification into the article. It seems there are fewer stairwells for the upper floors because of their smaller size. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Epicgenius (talk • contribs) 22:34, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

@Indy beetle: Sorry for the delay, I just saw these comments now. I will address them in a bit. Epicgenius (talk) 20:43, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: Ping me when you've finished addressing my comments. -Indy beetle (talk) 02:15, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

@Epicgenius: All good? It's fine if didn't find anything more about the reception of the building, I just need to know to wrap things up here. -Indy beetle (talk) 14:14, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

@Indy beetle, yes, sorry about that. I did not get your first ping. Unfortunately I couldn't find much commentary about the building on its own; most of the reception seems to be talking about Rockefeller Center as a whole. – Epicgenius (talk) 15:31, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok, is what it is. Article meets GA criteria. -Indy beetle (talk) 16:10, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

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