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Passed. ZKang123 (talk) 01:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Nominator: Epicgenius (talk · contribs) 14:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Reviewer: ZKang123 (talk · contribs) 08:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply


I decided to give this a review. But give me some time to give a proper look through.--ZKang123 (talk) 08:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

This looks well-written on first glance. Let me note any nitpicks.

  • "Inside, the ground story contains retail space, while the second through sixth stories contain a total of ten apartments." – "The ground floor houses retail space, while the second through sixth floors accommodate ten apartments". I think "a total of" is redundant.
  • Per MOS:NUMERAL, with the exception of the lead, I would try avoiding starting sentences with "287 Broadway", such as at the beginning of the "Site" section.
    • I understand the reasoning for this and would normally agree. However, MOS:NUMERAL also says that "proper names, technical terms and the like" may remain unchanged. In this case, 287 Broadway is the most common name for this building; it doesn't have an alternative name, so "287 Broadway" is the proper name as well. Epicgenius (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • "The ground-level facade originally contained flat-arched openings" – "originally featured"
  • "There was originally a recessed areaway next to the building, which was enclosed by a fence, but the fence was removed in 1915 when the areaway was infilled." – "A recessed areaway (or area?) next to the building was infilled in 1915, and the fence enclosing it was removed."
  • "hexagonal in shape." – "in shape" seems redundant. Though removing it would make the shortened clause a bit awkward. Try reword to something else, like "The building retains its original hexagonal shingles".
  • "the design of the original." – "the original design"
  • "The retail space does not retain its original finishes; as of 2024, it has a carpeted floor; gypsum, glass, and wood partitions; gypsum exterior walls; and a dropped ceiling." – a bit too much semicolons here and I understand they are substitutes for commas. But I might suggest rewording to: "The retail space, no longer retaining its original finishes, now includes a carpeted floor with gypsum, glass, and wood partitions, gypsum exterior walls, and a dropped ceiling."
    • Whoops, I forgot that this was supposed to be two sentences. I've reworded this more cleanly - it has a carpeted floor, gypsum exterior walls, a dropped ceiling, and gypsum/glass/wood partitions. Epicgenius (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • " The southern portion of the ground floor contains a small residential lobby, which is accessed from Reade Street." – removed "which is"
  • I note the repetition of "gypsum" in the interior subsection, and to be honest, I rather summarised somewhere in a paragraph that the building interior is largely made of gypsum, including the walls, floors etc on (almost) every floor. The primary material, yeah.
    • I'm thinking about the best way to go about this. Some of the spaces contain other materials too, but you're right that it might just be best to summarize the info about building materials. Epicgenius (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • "combined their properties" – "merged their properties".
  • "Broadway–Chambers Building, at 277 Broadway" – no need for the comma.
  • "Manufacturing concerns" – I suppose in this case "concerns" means firms and companies. Did a little trip there, especially in the lead.
  • "making 287 Broadway less attractive as a commercial structure." – Might reword to "decreasing 287 Broadway's attractiveness as a commercial structure"
  • "$160,000" – maybe add inflation values? Similarly for other currency values.
    I've now added all the inflation templates. Epicgenius (talk) 15:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • For the sentence "The family of Sonny Gindi", I would add "Subsequently" at the beginning.
  • "The Gindi family, which still owned the building, opposed the designation." – any reasons why?
    • I could not find a specific reason. However, many landlords tend to oppose landmark designation; due to NYC Landmark law, a landmark designation would make it more difficult for the landlord to modify their building in the future. Epicgenius (talk) 15:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • "ordered that the building be vacated" – "ordered the evacuation of the building."
  • "contained a pizzeria" – "housed a pizzeria"
  • "The tilt was corrected by the early 2010s, after the building at 57 Reade Street was completed" – no need for comma. Also might suggest "after the completion of the 57 Reade Street building".
  • "Workers installed timber bracing on the south wall of the building.[12][46] Steel shoring was added on the southern wall in 2008, replacing the timber bracing" – seems repetitive here. Maybe reword like "Workers installed timber bracing on the south wall of the building, which was replaced by steel shoring in 2008."

That's all for prose nitpicks.

Sourcing and spot checks

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  • Ref 25 checks out (also swap [26][25])
  • [29][21], [10][7] as well
  • Ref 18 checks out.
  • Ref 41 also supports the new building purchase, Gindi family's opposition of the designation, and their lack of interest to preserve the building.
  • Ref 43: Remove the "--amNY.com" in title.

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That's all from me. Putting nomination on hold.--ZKang123 (talk) 09:55, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the review @ZKang123. I've fixed all of the issues you brought up, except for two which I replied to above. Epicgenius (talk) 15:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
The changes are satisfactory. Passed.--ZKang123 (talk) 01:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
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