Talk:2024 European Parliament election in Germany
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Attack on SPD's leading Saxony candidate
editMEP Matthias Ecke was attacked yesterday. I think this merits a mention in the article, but I'm not sure where we should put it. source 1, source 2, source 3. MAINEiac4434 (talk) 15:18, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Other important topics
editNot directly related to political parties, but important part of the ongoing media coverage:
- L'amour toujours controversy
- 2024 Mannheim stabbing on May 31 by an Afghan, six injured, policeman killed, a literal no-elephant-in-this-room on German WP
- a second 2024 Mannheim stabbing later injured an AfD candidate
Please add. 2003:C6:373C:F1EF:5099:D27:9B2D:4E98 (talk) 20:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Analysis of results....
editI know it's a bit early, with the results still being finalized now, but three things already stand out to me as notable in this election:
1) The major rise of the AfD party, which nearly doubled its performance relative to the previous election.
2) The major fall in support for the Green Party, which lost nearly half of its seats.
3) The rather successful performance of the newly formed BSW party, which won more seats than the long-established FDP, and also outperformed Die Linke, from which it split - both Die Linke's performance today, and its higher performance in the previous election. -2003:CA:8718:D6B1:F9DB:917E:BB02:C9FB (talk) 20:51, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Results are pretty much final by now, "Zwischenergebnis: 10.06.2024 04:16:00 Uhr, 400 von 400 Kreisen ausgezählt". 2024 should maybe get compared to 2014, not to 2019 and 2021. Strong CDU/CSU, weak Greens and FDP. Unlike 2014, 11 year old AfD now 2nd largest party, and 149 year old SPD also-ran. Without 5% hurdle, the EU election is a better representation of preferences in Germany than the Bundestag/Landtags elections, with Volt collecting over 1 million votes, so literally "Megavolt" now. BSW apparently scooped up votes from all groups, not just a split from Linke. In France, Macron quickly (within few hours, if not minutes) decided to have new elections in only three weeks time. Scholz won't have any of this, he will soldier on as lame duck to regular fall 2025 elections, as the SPD already in 2005 had decided to go for early re-elections, and Schröder lost power. 1972 was a SPD triumph, though.2003:C6:373C:F12E:8CF0:BC5E:C87E:129D (talk) 02:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- I'd agree with much of that, but I'm not sure why 2014 should be the main comparison, rather than 2019. Perhaps you can elaborate? 2019 was the most recent previous European Parliament election. 2021 was more recent, but a different sort of election, so not really an "apples to apples" comparison.
- In 2019, the AfD's support had already grown significantly, compared to the previous election, in large part due to the 2015 migrant crisis. This time around, its growth is likely more because of other factors, like the Ukraine war/Russia sanctions, the recent high inflation, and lingering resentment over the corona restrictions a few years ago. The BSW seems to have found a niche of voters who are dissatisfied with the more establishment parties - i.e. the current "traffic light coalition" parties (SPD/Greens/FDP) and the "Union" (CDU/CSU) - but who (for whatever reasons) don't want to vote for the AfD and thus welcomed a new "alternative." You're probably right that this includes voters who'd previously voted for all of the other parties - not just Die Linke (which continues its decline) - and likely others who hadn't previously bothered to vote in the EP elections, since they didn't like any of the parties. -2003:CA:8718:D6B1:9B7B:2504:165D:3070 (talk) 2003:CA:8718:D6B1:9B7B:2504:165D:3070 (talk) 06:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Shaded maps...
editThe shaded results maps in the article generally look good (thanks to whoever created them), but I'm curious why the shaded map for the AfD shows that party's "swing" - i.e. how much their percentage changed from the previous election - but all of the other ones show that party's percentage of the vote. I think it would make more sense to have the same for all the parties, to allow more of an "apples to apples" visual comparison. And in fact if someone's just casually scrolling through the article, without carefully reading the caption for each shaded map, they'd likely assume that the AfD shaded map was in fact the same as the others! (That's what I initially did.)
I do know that the increase in the AfD vote share was notable so perhaps that map would make sense to include additionally, perhaps also one for the Greens, since their decrease in the vote share was quite notable. Those could then be in a separate section. But I think it'd still make sense to have a regular AfD results percentage shaded map - to directly compare with the others. -2003:CA:8718:D6EB:5E0:4A09:7011:AB45 (talk) 17:52, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, there *is* such a map for AfD: there are six maps with shaded results (Union, AfD, SPD, Greens, BSW and FDP), while the seventh one only shows the AfD's swing. I do agree that the seventh map is hard to distinguish from others, though: what solution would you suggest?
- MapperGuy87 (talk) 09:01, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Changing the infobox to include pictures
editI'm quite unsure why this infobox should remain as visually barren as it is now. There are six clear leading parties in addition to a bunch of small ones: maybe we should convert the whole thing to a nice, pretty infobox with pictures for candidates and keep the rest of the parties in a sepatate section?
MapperGuy87 (talk) 09:05, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Id agree, current format is out of keeping with the style used in other elections New guy editor (talk) 21:48, 6 July 2024 (UTC)