Talk:2021 Joe Biden speech to a joint session of Congress
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February 23?
editI work for the House of Representatives. I can find no source that the date for Biden’s joint address is February 23. The Speaker has not yet sent the President an invitation. Ric (talk) 23:31, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
The one source listed clearly states "This date has not been confirmed." Again, as of February 5, the Speaker has not yet send the President an invitation. Ric (talk) 19:15, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Requested move 22 February 2021
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Procedural close. Page was moved by eduardog3000 (talk) at 00:36 on 26 February 2021 (UTC). (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. put'r there 05:42, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
February 2021 Joe Biden speech to joint session of Congress → 2021 Joe Biden speech to joint session of Congress – There is less than one week remaining in February and the date is still unknown. Additionally, other editors have also proposed moving the page to the indicated destination. 66.234.210.119 (talk) 08:50, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
This article is entirely WP:CRYSTAL. Nirvanaoreilly (talk) 02:39, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Strong Support because the month in unnecessary unless he gives multiple addresses to joint sessions this year (per WP:NCEVENTS). Also move February 2017 Donald Trump speech to joint session of Congress to 2017 Donald Trump speech to joint session of Congress. Both of these seem to be blindly and incorrectly following the formatting of February 2009 Barack Obama speech to joint session of Congress, except there was another in September of that year, which is the only reason February is in the title. --eduardog3000 (talk) 18:02, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Further proposal: move these unofficial SOTU pages to "<year> unofficial State of the Union Address" to acknowledge the fact that they are SOTUs in all but name. Not including September 2009 because that was clearly not an unofficial SOTU. --eduardog3000 (talk) 18:02, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Going to boldly move to 2021 Joe Biden speech to joint session of Congress if there are no objections soon as the Press Secretary explicitly stated "it was never planned to be in February"[1], making the current title blatantly incorrect. --eduardog3000 (talk) 19:05, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thus directly contradicting Biden himself in January: "Next month, in my first appearance before a joint session of congress, I will lay out my 'build back better' recovery plan..." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:5500:4300:17F4:25BD:2E33:EA49 (talk) 19:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes it is in contradiction with what Biden said and I definitely remember reading the Feb date, and Feb 23 in particular, awhile back. However I think more recent info including where we are on the calendar and the Psaki briefing should prevail re naming the article.[1] Dash77 (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- Strong Support It seems virtually impossible, given the planning that needs to take place for such an event, that the event would happen in February now with no such planning in evidence as yet. However the Psaki briefing on the 16th does seem to suggest some form of the event will eventually happen, but not this month, so the proposed name change is appropriate.[1] Dash77 (talk) 20:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
There's no joint session
editIf you look at the first reference provided, Jen Psaki says, "We don’t know where the February 23rd date came from. It’s a great mystery. I’ve not Nancy Drew-ed that one out yet, but it was never planned to be in February and we don’t have a date for a joint session at this point." It's probably best to delete this draft. It was made on the assumption that a session would occur as it has been done under previous administrations, but due to the pandemic, it most likely won't happen at all in 2021. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:42, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- There is no rush to delete this and nobody knows for sure when this will happen but there is still reports that the join session may happen in April after the stimulus is passed, according to NBC News. If it’s April and the joint session has not happened then we can revisit deletion. JayJayWhat did I do? 00:47, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Bowman's response
editShould Jamaal Bowman's response be included here, perhaps in its own section, per The Hill? —twotwofourtysix(My talk page and contributions) 00:18, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
survivor
editWho was the highest-ranking constitutional officer absent? Whoever that was, is the designated survivor, whether designated or not, since they would assume the powers of the Presidency in the event of an attack. Should be pretty easy to narrow down. For example, in 2010, Shaun Donovan, the H.U.D. Secretary, was designated but Hillary Clinton, as Secretary of State, was absent, attending a diplomatic function overseas. She would have taken over, not Donovan. 98.10.165.90 (talk) 01:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)