Talk:2019 Tour de l'Avenir

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 16:30, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

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• Col de la Loze
• 2019 Tour de l'Avenir

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• ... that the first ascent of the Col de la Loze mountain in professional cycling was during the 2019 Tour de l'Avenir race? Source: [1]
  • ALT1:... that in May 2019, the first path up the Col de la Loze mountain was opened, and the first professional cycle race to use the ascent was the 2019 Tour de l'Avenir? Source: [2]
  • ALT2:... the 2019 Tour de l'Avenir was the first professional cycle race to ascend Col de la Loze, and the path up the mountain was opened exactly one year ago today? Source: [3], works for 12 May
  • ALT3:... that the path up the Col de la Loze, which opened one year ago today and is the seventh highest mountain pass in France, was first used in professional cycling during the 2019 Tour de l'Avenir?

• Reviewed: Benevolence (tax), Freimut Dave
• Comment: Col de la Loze is new article, 2019 Tour de l'Avenir is 5x expanded. ALT2 would only work on 12 May

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:27, 27 March 2020 (UTC).

• Starting review. Zeete (talk) 13:43, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

• Col de la Loze: New, long enough (per DYK check, over 2100), cited, neutral, checked Earwig report, no problems found
• 2019 Tour de l'Avenir: Expanded 5x (per DYK check, from 384 to over 2000), cited, neutral, checked Earwig report, no problems found
• Hook: Cited, length checked, interesting but, prefer main hook, shorter

• @Joseph2302: Could the hook and the 2019 Tour de l'Avenir article perhaps add about using the newly built seventh highest mountain pass in France? Thanks, Zeete (talk) 14:06, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

• Zeete Added to 2019 Tour de l'Avenir article
• How about ALT3 listed above? It's 193 characters, so just in the 200 character limit. I would like to keep the first professional cycle race bit of possible (because that's the most interesting thing about the Tour). Joseph2302 (talk) 12:16, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• @Joseph2302: ALT3 looks good. 2019 Tour de l'Avenir updated. Do you want to add "ago" before today?
• Prefer hook ALT3, struck others. Suitable for May 12 special occasion. "today" can be dropped if not on May 12. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 12:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

• Note: I have added "ago" to ALT3, which does not make sense without it in American English. Also, with two bold links, the hook is not overlong (it counts as 178 prose characters since we only count one of the bold links in the total length for multi-article hooks). BlueMoonset (talk) 14:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

• BlueMoonset Thanks for spotting- it doesn't make sense without the ago in British English either. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

• Hi, I came by to promote this, and added the May 12 date to the sentence about the opening in the Col de la Loze article. But I'm confused; it doesn't say that in the English-language source, and later in your article it says that only time trials were held on May 12. Please clarify. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:45, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

• In the French source [4], it says "Dimanche 12 mai, l’accès au col de la Loze ouvre officiellement et sera ainsi le premier col déneigé de France cette saison.", which translates to "Sunday, May 12, access to the Col de la Loze officially opens, making it the first snow-cleared pass in France this season." I've updated the page, so the France Bleu source is the cite for 12 May 2019. Hope that clears things up. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:15, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

• Great, thanks! Restoring tick. Yoninah (talk) 16:28, 7 May 2020 (UTC)