Talk:2018 New Brunswick general election

Which number?

Could someone who knows please clarify - will this be the 59th election, as in the title, or the 39th, as in the text? --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 12:51, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

In total, this will be the 59th election for New Brunswick, however I have yet to see a source calling it the 59th New Brunswick general election. On the Elections New Brunswick website they report the results of the 2014 election as the 38th election,[1] and the assembly website calls the current legislative assembly 58th.[2] Since there is this discrepancy I think the article should be located at simply "Next". For more discrepancies see User:117Avenue/Atlantic Canada elections. 117Avenue (talk) 19:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

It will be the 59th election but only the 39th since confederation. The same 'discrepancy' exists with NS. The practice seems to be for Canadian provinces to adopt the post confederation numbering. The title 'next' comes with certain problems. Therefore the article title ought to be reverted back to 39th. Graemp (talk) 21:53, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

What's wrong with 'Next'? It conforms with WP:COMMONNAME. 117Avenue (talk) 03:22, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

To fully understand the problems with using 'Next' rather than the number as per WP:COMMONNAME, please read the discussion at Talk:43rd Canadian federal election. Graemp (talk) 08:05, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I have, and as I explained there, we have plenty of time to change the links. 117Avenue (talk) 02:08, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

If Elections New Brunswick refers to the previous election as the 38th then that's what we go with. Otherwise, we're engaging in original research. Nixon Now (talk) 16:22, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

You must remember WP:COMMONNAME. If there is no source (or the sources can't agree) all we have left are original research and opinion. 117Avenue (talk) 03:01, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Adding a photo of Blaine Higgs

Hi there - I would like to supply a photo of Blaine Higgs to this page. I am connected to the campaign and am willing to supply candidate information as well. Thank you. Kbowden897! (talk) 12:46, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

I've added a photo

File:Blaine Higgs Leader, Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick.jpg

Blaine Higgs Leader, Progressive Conservative Party of New Brunswick

Kbowden897! (talk) 23:13, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Kbowden897! I'll try to add it now. Bkissin (talk) 16:13, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

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Updates to NDP Canidates

Dear Editor,

Please be advised that multiple NDP Candidates are missing from this Wiki

Saint John East- Alex White (source https://www.facebook.com/SaintJohnEastNDPRDA/?hc_ref=ARSU2SoSrh86mHNPJgWHBkeSfPmZQXlblUH1Qn8eohZxUZwGSLV-7j4Nrd00YTakElo&fref=nf&__tn__=kCH-R)

Carleton- Adam McAvoy(source https://www.facebook.com/Adam-McAvoy-for-Carleton-NDP-393166744621946/?modal=admin_todo_tour&ref=notif&notif_id=1534276665089877&notif)_t=page_invite

Miramichi Bay-Neguac- Willie Robichaud (source https://www.facebook.com/Willie-Robichaud-pour-Baie-de-Miramichi-Neguac-NPD-292882407782346/?ref=br_rs)

Restigouche West- Beverly Mann (source https://www.facebook.com/Beverly-Mann-for-Restigouche-West-NDP-pour-Restigouche-Ouest-NPD-2072211356374204/?hc_ref=ARTS-0uHwpqYSC8TeNc-VRK151ZNXIg_ymvIpfTdd2DwE5sRJSNegAtMHJ-SZhGefgs&__xts__[0]=68.ARDG1J5ho8oJW5Xcsr-rjXUMtqNAOsRzWqmFOUpZHc492H9rPtia0Q59Hza8Xyej2fGc-PsdI1rzCQrVjgIZXOZY_jo2eHpPBOsrlQXjOIQcD8s_W45rrgnbIGVLlsVHUCWj7HHI2XLl&__tn__=kCH-R)

Restigouche-Chaleur- Paul Tremblay (source https://www.facebook.com/Paul-Tremblay-pourfor-Restigouche-Chaleur-NPD-NDP-399961417128790/?ref=br_rs)

Moncton Southwest- Hailey Duffy (source https://www.facebook.com/Hailey-Duffy-for-Moncton-Southwest-NDP-277122026432131/?modal=admin_todo_tour&ref=notif&notif_id=1534280284358655&notif_t=page_invite) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JoshFloyd2197 (talk • contribs) 05:33, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

All added today. None of them appear on the party's candidate page and most are too new to show up the last time I did a Fasebook search for all the ridings.G. Timothy Walton (talk) 15:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

results by riding

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13PId5WHFO82sKgbtpimz5eABDjDsb43LuFVyrQ2_zHw/edit?usp=sharing if someone cares to upload. Nickjbor (talk) 05:25, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

why does the infobox show only the last election results and not the current one?

OK, so it's late in NB and only a couple of hours ago was the infobox adjusted to show the PA and Greens and their leaders... but this is not a page about the previous election results and seat-counts and vote percentages - shouldn't it be THIS election's results instead?

I found percentage results on CTV's page: PC - Elected 22, Leading 0, Votes 31.9% LIB, Elected 21, Leading 0, Votes 37.8% GRN - Elected 3, Leading 0, Votes 11.9% NDP - Elected 0, Leading 0, Votes 5% "Others" [the PA] Elected 3, Leading 0, Votes 13.4%

I'm not a Wikipedian and don't understand anything about how to edit your infoboxes and your confusing seat tables... the BC election pages are much clearer to understand, easier to read and understand than the tables on this page and other pages using the same table design.

This is major upset in Canadian politics, like last year's BC election, and like Quebec's election (Oct 1) is also bound to be, so it needs high-priority attention, being a current event and all... but I'll bet most regular Canadian Wikipedians are obsessing over the Ottawa tornadoes article.. because everyone knows that what happens in Ontario matters most, and what happens in the outer provinces just doesn't rate, so NB's election coverage can wait. I hope when I look at this article in the morning this will all be fixed up and the proper details or current standings and party percentages in place where they should be, instead of last election's results. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.55.69.14 (talk) 06:57, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

The results were in the infobox code, but it wasn't displaying because the code signified it as an ongoing election. I changed it to not be considered ongoing, so everything will now display. — Kawnhr (talk) 08:06, 25 September 2018 (UTC)

Aftermath section?

The NB election has been taken note of in Quebec, where PQ leader Lisée cites it as a reason for electoral reform. This seems pretty notable to me, but it would seem jarring to slot it into the page's opening paragraphs. Should there be an "aftermath" section to discuss the result, reactions and government formation? — Kawnhr (talk) 18:10, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

An aftermath section is a good idea, since government formation will be especially relevant for this election, considering the outcome. -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:42, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

The map is wrong

The current election map for some reason has riding 8, Bathurst East-Nepisiguit-Saint-Isidore, colored in dark blue. The Liberals won that riding with about 51.7%, NDP in second, and the PCs a distant third. 47.54.63.42 (talk) 02:25, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Gallant is premier-designate

I just corrected an edit that removed Gallant as premier-designate and replaced it with "TBD", presumably on the basis that the long-term isn't yet known. It was an obvious troll, because they also hastily edited British Columbia general election, 2017 and Ontario general election, 1985 to provide evidence for their interpretation (I've reverted those, too). However, I'd like to lay out the justification for listing Gallant as "premier-designate" in the infobox, for the record, because I can see it being subject to dispute in future if Higgs is sworn in.

Gallant is considered the "premier-designate" because, in the immediate aftermath of the election, he and his party continued to form the government. And we know he's serving as premier in more than a simple caretaker capacity, because he received permission from the LG to continue in office, and intends to take his government to the legislature to test its confidence. That additionally means that if Gallant is replaced by Higgs, Higgs is actually being appointed premier mid-assembly, and not as the direct consequence of an election. Thus, this election resulted in Gallant as premier in the immediate term; whether he remains in office is another question, but it's not the one the infobox is trying to answer. Of course, if Higgs forms government himself, then there will be a note to that effect.

Moreover, per British Columbia general election, 2017 and Ontario general election, 1985, this is the consensus on how to handle such situations. — Kawnhr (talk) 16:28, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Agreed. GoodDay (talk) 01:13, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Kawnhr, do you have any sources reporting that Gallant is premier-designate. For an election like the last in British Columbia, it would certainly be more informative if the succeeding premier in the infobox was Horgan. Onetwothreeip (talk) 09:02, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Onetwothreeip, if you mean sources that refer to Gallant as the premier, they are myriad, and I believe several of the sources in the Aftermath section mention it. If you mean sources that specifically use the phrase "premier-designate", then I will admit that there are none (after 2014), because of the way the Westminster system works (a premier does not have a set term, they serve "at her majesty's pleasure", and cannot be re-designated to an office they already hold indefinitely). When I said "Gallant is premier-designate" above, I was adapting this to Wikipedia's conventions, which is that the phrase "premier-designate" is used in all election infoboxes to refer to the post-election premier; I have never been pleased with this phrasing, precisely because it does not truly fit for incumbents who continue in office, but unfortunately we must play the hands we are dealt. Ultimately the "after_election" field is to list who was premier following this election, and that is Gallant, and so it goes. — Kawnhr (talk) 19:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

I do not. I mean premier-designate. Onetwothreeip (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

OK. See the rest of my response. — Kawnhr (talk) 00:19, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

So we will have to move onto changing the post-election outcome for premiers in general, particularly the name for post-election premiers. Onetwothreeip (talk) 01:34, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

NVM, a closer look at the infobox shows that "posttitle = Premier-designate" is responsible for it. So it's simple to remove, and I'd even do it myself, but -designate is universal across all Canadian elections (eg: BC '53), so clearly this is something that requires discussion… but I'm not sure exactly where this issue should be raised. — Kawnhr (talk) 08:05, 25 October 2018 (UTC)