Talk:2018–19 ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating

Latest comment: 5 years ago by 15zulu in topic Speculation with qualifiers

Speculation with qualifiers edit

This happens every year, where competitors in the competition score high enough in early competitions where their qualification seems really, really likely even though it's not guaranteed yet. E.g. last year, some users started highlighting Jason Brown because it seemed like he'd likely qualify, however he ended up being first alternate. This year it's Březina and Guignard/Fabbri (so far, though each weekend adds more names to speculated likely qualifers). It is factually wrong to mark someone as qualifier when their qualification is still unconfirmed, i.e. it is mathematically still possible for six skaters/couples to score above them. Listing them as qualifiers is adding unsourced information. It is speculation, not fact. Wikipedia is not in the business of being a crystal ball, and only information confirmed as fact should be added. Wait until this weekend, do the calculation again, and Březina and Guignard/Fabbri qualification may be fact at that point, but right now it isn't, so please wait. Thank you, 15zulu (talk) 09:18, 8 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

re:Gia Sesshoumaru's edit summary: "mathematically it's nearly impossible for him to be eliminated from the Final" - actually is is mathematically quite possible. E.g. @JPN, Uno gets third (26 points but beat Březina on first tie-breaker), Voronov gets 1st (26 points, wins 1st tie-breaker), Vasiljevs or Aliev gets 2nd (first event for either); @RUS, Hanyu gets third (26 points, wins 1st tie-breaker), Messing gets 1st or 2nd (28 point or 26 points & can beat Březina in 2nd tie-breaker); @FRA, Chen gets third (26 points, wins 1st tie-breaker), Vasiljevs or Aliev gets 1st or 2nd (28 point or 26 points & can win in 2nd tie-breaker). Is that exact scenario likely, probably not, however these results are mathematically possible. So saying that "mathematically it's nearly impossible for [Březina] to be eliminated from the Final" is mathematically false. 15zulu (talk) 09:34, 8 November 2018 (UTC)Reply