Talk:2017 Minya bus attack

Latest comment: 7 years ago by InedibleHulk in topic Lemma change

Tel Aviv City Hall illuminated with the Egyptian flag

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In solidarity agains terror, Tel Aviv municipality lighted up the city hall with the Egyptian flag, making it the first arab state flag to illuminate the building.[1][2]

Is the city authorized to express solidarity on the country's behalf? InedibleHulk (talk) 22:17, 27 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
  1. ^ "Tel Aviv City Hall lights up in solidarity with Egypt". The Jerusalem Post. Retrieved 27 May 2017.
  2. ^ "Mayor of Tel Aviv on Twitter". Twitter. Retrieved 27 May 2017.

Lemma change

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I would propose to change the lemma because the attack did not took place in the town of el-Minya. According to Terrorism hits Egyptians ahead of Ramadan, a report of Daily News Egypt, the attack took place in a village named el-'Adwa in the vicinity of the town of Maghagha which is the northernmost town in the el-Minya governorate. Maghagha is situated about 70 kilometers north of el-Minya and 60 kilometers south of Beni Suef. The Coptic Christians came from Beni Suef. You can do it by using the agricultural road along the Nile passing Maghagha or using the desert highway and diverting to the northwest at 28° 43′ 43″ N 30° 38′ 29″ E. You will never pass el-Minya. And by the way the Samuel monastery belongs to the Beni Suef governorate. --RolandUnger (talk) 17:38, 28 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Minya is not just a town. Minya is both a governorate and a city. The city of Minya is the capital of the Minya governorate, which comprises many cities/towns like El Idwa and Maghagha. The attack took place within the Minya governorate. The Coptic Christians who were killed came from different villages and towns in both the Minya governorate and the Beni Suef governorate. The monastery of Saint Samuel is located in the Minya governorate (not in Beni Suef like you said). The closest major town to the monastery is Maghagha. Therefore, I disagree with changing the name of the article. Bethy17 (talk) 17:55, 28 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
I know that Minya is both a town and a governorate. But if you speak on el-Minya all people think about the town and not about the governorate. Why not to name it El-Idwa attack or Maghagha attack (el-Idwa is about 9 km northwest of Maghagha) at the road from Maghagha to the monastery? Because this is more correct. El Idwa is about 70 km north of el-Minya city near the Beni Suef-el-Minya governorates border. And as stated on your talk page the monastery belongs already to Beni Suef. Please have a look to a map. --RolandUnger (talk) 18:25, 28 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
I think a lemma like Ramadan 2017 attack is not good because a Coptic pilgrimage has nothing to do with the Muslim holy month which really started at the same day. --RolandUnger (talk) 18:35, 28 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
Truer to name something after the broader region it did occur than after any specific place it didn't, even nearby. Just out of town just isn't in town. The title alone may confuse some readers, but the very first sentence clears everything up nicely. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:39, 30 May 2017 (UTC)Reply