Talk:2017–18 FIS Alpine Ski World Cup

Title

The article should be "2018 Alpine Skiing World Cup". The 2017 FIS ASWC season ended at the end of September, 2017. FIS uses the fiscal year (FY), not the calendar year (CY). Their call - not ours. This is their 2018 season and is now in effect. 12.72.104.105 (talk)

I think: To say (write) 2017-18 is more better; there is no miss-understanding. The season did begin in October 2017 and will be finished in March 2018. The FIS may do it in another manner - but the FIS is not the WIKIPEDIA. By the way: Very many facts which you may find in the FIS achieves (regarding races from the 1950es an later) are wrong.Skiscout (talk) 17:54, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

YOUR basic assumption is wrong. WP does not bend the world to fit its own format. WP reports what the world is doing... and FIS uses 2018 to describe the 2017-2018 Fiscal Year it is currently enjoying. 12.72.104.105 (talk) 20:01, 6 January 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.72.104.72 (talk)

Overall nations cup standings

I think the top 20 or so nations for the overall nations cup should be shown, because the top 16 qualify for PyeongChang 2018. Thoughts? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

3rd highlighted pink

Is there any particular reason why third place has been highlighted in pink? Is it constructive? Any thoughts? MattSucci (talk) 13:34, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

I was just wondering that myself. My best guess is that someone put it there to help differentiate between different lines? Either way, I don't think it is helpful, and I find it, personally, distracting. It also makes it look like they should be highlighted for some reason. I think it should be removed. Ravendrop 01:38, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

These are my feelings too. The pink highlight has also been added to the Ski World Cup 2017/18, also without consensus, and as the ip-address obviously has no talk page, I am unable to contact the contributor. Therefore, I am tempted to go straight to deletion, then wait to see if consensus decides to revert back to "pink". Any other thoughts anyone? MattSucci (talk) 07:12, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Thousand separators

Apostrophes are not standard thousand separators, see [1]. Per ISO, changed to spaces. --Marbe166 (talk) 15:55, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

MattSucci and I have been discussing this on my talkpage, please see below and please add any comments you might have, thanks. --Marbe166 (talk) 17:53, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Is there any particular reason why you deleted the apostrophes from the prize money amounts? Surely deleting something that is directly from the FIS website https://data.fis-ski.com/alpine-skiing/prize-money-ranking.html and that has worked well for the past few years requires consensus? MattSucci (talk) 15:15, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

It is not a standard thousand separator, see [2]. You could argue that it could be replaced by a comma instead, but ISO prefers the space. --Marbe166 (talk) 15:53, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. At school we only used commas to seperate the thousands and so on, the FIS website has chosen to use apostrophes (maybe it has something to do with Swiss Francs). I personally would prefer to see a comma used, but leaving a space doesn't look very professional (just my opinion). What are your personal thoughts? Sincerely, MattSucci (talk) 16:02, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I'm Swedish and we use the comma for the decimal and the space for the thousand separator. My personal opinion is that it should be as clear as possible, thus using a combination of comma/dot or dot/comma is out of the question. Which one you use for the decimal doesn't matter to me, but for the thousand separator I don't like the apostrophe as it is neither the English standard (comma) or the ISO standard (space). --Marbe166 (talk) 16:08, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

If you agree, I would prefer the comma. It's much neater. Do you think it's necessary to consult on the talk page? MattSucci (talk) 16:19, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

No, I don't really agree, comma/dot as thousand separator is a no-no for me. The ISO standard talks about a "thin space", and that is what I prefer, although I don't know how to do one, so I did a normal space and extended the cell size to avoid double lines. --Marbe166 (talk) 16:27, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I understand, so it's probably best to ask the question on the talk page. It's not the most important thing in the world, but I'm quite conservative and prefer things that are agreed by consensus, whether it's agreed to use a thinner space or comma. Sincerely, MattSucci (talk) 17:17, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Agreed, let's put it to the talk page. I will copy this whole conversation to the talk page, if you agree? --Marbe166 (talk) 17:33, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I agree :-) MattSucci (talk) 17:37, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Either a comma or a space is acceptable per WP's Manual of Style. My personal preference would be for a comma. Ravendrop 23:21, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

As can be seen in the above discussion, my preference is for a comma. Should no one else contribute, I will presume "consensus" is for a comma. MattSucci (talk) 18:25, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Since this is not a very highly frequented page I would leave this discussion open for a bit longer. I started it on 4 December, so I propose that we let it be open for a week and make a decision on the 11th. --Marbe166 (talk) 18:59, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

I agree, 100%. A week or so, should be long enough (I didn't intend to edit before then). MattSucci (talk) 19:33, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

Commas are being added and should future consensus be to change it to a thin space, then so be it. MattSucci (talk) 06:08, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Overall title for Hirscher

Dear Sir, Kristoffersen is not allowed to take part in World Cup downhill races and Super-G races due to regulations of the FIS (he has not enough FIS-points). --Skiscout (talk) 15:20, 4 March 2018 (UTC).