Talk:2016 United States Senate election in California
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Potential and Declined - suggest removal
editFellow editors, Per my comments at WP:RSN, I suggest removal of the Potential and Declined subsections. That persons may be considering running, or may have officially announced that they will not be running, is not noteworthy, and gives the impression that the article is attempting to be News. NB: I will also not be running. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 16:09, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
- Agree with Ryk72. The sections do seem to be a case of WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Someone can essentially say that are "considering" or have "declined" or whatever and cite themselves per WP:BLPSELFPUB just to get their name added to Wikipedia. Only those who have officially announced their candidacy and have been received coverage in independent reliable sources should be added to the article. Otherwise, it's sort of WP:CRYSTAL, isn't it? -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:45, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Marchjuly, Agreed. Ergo... - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 04:38, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
Fellow editors, Unless there is objection here, including reasoning, I will be removing the Potential sections in the next day or so. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 04:37, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
- Ryk72, I came here to ask why such a long list is necessary in this article, and found that it has already been discussed. But looking at the article's revision history, it seems you never removed them. Is the a reason that you didn't? I think all of the "declined" lists should be removed. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 06:57, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
- @Athomeinkobe: No particular reason other than not getting around to it. And yes, I agree that the "declined" lists should be removed. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 00:45, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- Done - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 00:48, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- Removed material restored by Tiller54 here. Looking through the lists, there's quite a few inclusions which are not verified by the source (source notes their endorsement of a candidate, not their declination); or for which the source is self-published (Twitter). In the absence of comment by other editors, I will remove these. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 05:07, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
Deadlines to appear on the primary ballot?
editI've been unable to find what the deadline is for a candidate to be listed on the June 2016 ballot. Anyone know? It would be a worthy addition to the article. TJRC (talk) 20:26, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
Infobox oddities
editI realize that the Election infobox is designed with the assumption that there are party nominations, which means it's not going to be a perfect fit for this race, since California has blanket primaries. But is there any reason that despite both "nominees" being TBD, it lists Democratic as the party affiliation for one of them? While it does seem very likely that one or two Democrats will win the top two spots in the primary, it's not a guarantee and to me it seems like both affiliations should be TBD as well. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 04:16, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
- You are correct, it shouldn't list any party. Both general election candidates (not nominees) could be Republicans, or both Independents etc Tiller54 (talk) 22:32, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
- The primary is over and the top two candidates have been added, but I changed "Nominee" to "Candidate." Under California election law they are technically "voter nominated," but Nominee in the American context typically refers to party nominations so I thought it could be confusing. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 00:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- While discussing the infobox, do we want to change the colours for the candidates? Both candidates are Democrats, yet Harris' colour in the infobox is blue, whereas Sanchez's is green. Under current standard practice, the colour blue, which is used by the Democratic party, and colours that aren't blue, red or yellow are typically given to prominent independent candidates. Whilst Harris does have more establishment Democratic Party support, she isn't the official Democratic candidate against an unnoficial Democratic candidate. Therefore, might it be fairer to use two non-blue colours to denote each candidate (Green and Purple for example)? MoreofaGlorifiedPond,Really... (talk) 13:59, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- Both should be blue. Let's not overthink this. They're both Democrats, so both should have the same Democratic colors.—GoldRingChip 17:13, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- I suggested two non-blue colours in preparation for when the map gets coloured in, but I guess making them both blue is actually more sensible... MoreofaGlorifiedPond,Really... (talk) 18:11, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- I guess the map is something we'll have to figure out when we get closer to the general election. Having two candidates of the same party contest an election is relatively uncommon in American politics, but it's likely to happen more and more in California. United States presidential election, 1836 features four Whig candidates in the infobox and map, all with different colors. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 18:16, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- I suggested two non-blue colours in preparation for when the map gets coloured in, but I guess making them both blue is actually more sensible... MoreofaGlorifiedPond,Really... (talk) 18:11, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- Both should be blue. Let's not overthink this. They're both Democrats, so both should have the same Democratic colors.—GoldRingChip 17:13, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- While discussing the infobox, do we want to change the colours for the candidates? Both candidates are Democrats, yet Harris' colour in the infobox is blue, whereas Sanchez's is green. Under current standard practice, the colour blue, which is used by the Democratic party, and colours that aren't blue, red or yellow are typically given to prominent independent candidates. Whilst Harris does have more establishment Democratic Party support, she isn't the official Democratic candidate against an unnoficial Democratic candidate. Therefore, might it be fairer to use two non-blue colours to denote each candidate (Green and Purple for example)? MoreofaGlorifiedPond,Really... (talk) 13:59, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- The primary is over and the top two candidates have been added, but I changed "Nominee" to "Candidate." Under California election law they are technically "voter nominated," but Nominee in the American context typically refers to party nominations so I thought it could be confusing. Zeldafanjtl (talk) 00:17, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- Why not make Sanchez a slightly different shade of blue, similar to what was done in the infobox for the 2003 California gubernatorial recall election with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Tom McClintock? ALPolitico (talk) 00:01, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
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Infobox color
editI was reverted by an IP user who cited precedent for having different colors on infoboxes for two candidates of the same party (in a Senate article, where there are only 2 candidates). This seems very confusing, especially since as it stood Kamala Harris was given the regular Democratic blue color present in most all infoboxes, and her opponent was given green. This could easily be misconstrued as being related to the Green Party, and using any color other than blue would imply something similar. There's nothing wrong with having two of the same color on the main infobox, as both candidates are members of the same party, which could easily be made recognizable by keeping both of them the default Democratic blue. Calibrador (talk) 04:52, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
Minority?
editI am removing the statement saying that the winner will be the first minority female senator from California. According to Wikipedia articles about what constitutes minorities, the two current Senators are both religious and ethnic minorities. It's not clear what that statement was trying to say. All Senators prior to the ones currently in office were male, California has never had a Senator of Hispanic or Indian origin that I can find, but I haven't gone through every biography to check for partial ethnic heritage. In combination with gender, either would be the first woman of her respective minority, but that would be true of any non-Jewish woman. If somebody wants to make a clear statement, feel free to add one. Hagrinas (talk) 01:21, 6 November 2016 (UTC)