Talk:2014–2016 Oromo protests

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I'm having a hard time finding a photo that is labeled under a creative commons license. If anyone finds one please upload it to Wikicommons and then put it into the template on this page. Thank you.Monopoly31121993 (talk) 13:48, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

This article still needs an image that is labeled under a creative commons license.Monopoly31121993 (talk) 17:58, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Most violent crackdown since...

The article currently states,

In the three days leading up to 8 August, Reuters reported that at least 90 protesters[5] had been shot and killed by Ethiopian security forces, marking the most violent crackdown against protesters in sub-Saharan Africa since at least 75 people were killed during protests in Ethiopia's Oromia Region in November and December 2015.[7][8]

Should we not list a "since [previous event]" that resulted in a higher death toll? I am able to remember, for example, the Burundian unrest (2015–present). 27.115.113.102 (talk) 05:16, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Ongoing?

Are these protests really ongoing? I haven't heard anything about them for awhile. Charles Essie (talk) 21:11, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

@Charles Essie: Same question. Is the article outdated or has the wave of protests ended? The article should be edited accordingly. --Jamez42 (talk) 22:39, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Apparently, they are ongoing. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7] Charles Essie (talk) 16:31, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 16 February 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Of course, this has no effect on the creation of another article about protests in 2018. Dekimasuよ! 02:48, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

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2016 Ethiopian protests → 2015–2018 Ethiopian protests – Anti-government protests have been ongoing in Ethiopia since 2015. This article should be renamed and expanded accordingly. Charles Essie (talk) 03:52, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

• Neutral (I don't know enough about the Ethiopia situation to assess whether this should change titles), but you might want to change your request to "2015–2018 Ethiopian protests". MOS:DATERANGE states that the preferred format for date ranges is "XXYY–XXZZ", and not "XXYY–ZZ". Paintspot Infez (talk) 17:49, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. I wasn’t sure which one is correct but now I know. Charles Essie (talk) 19:40, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose This article is about the protests that sparked international condemnation and concern and took place from 5 August 2016 until October 2016. Yes, it is true that similiar underlying issues caused protests, some of which, probably meet the requirements of notability. I would be happy to do my best to help with an article about the 2018 protests if reliable sources are available. My recollection from 2016 was that the number of reliable sources for the 2015 events were few and it wasn't until major international news organizations started covering the protests in August that Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International released reports about protests in 2015.Monopoly31121993 (talk) 16:42, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

• I’d be on board with a separate article on the 2018 protests. I just think they need to be covered somewhere. Charles Essie (talk) 17:29, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

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POV issue:- The article lacks neutrality & factuality

Hello everyone,

The 2016 Oromo youth demonstration stared because of Addis Ababa's new city masterplan which showed to include farm lands from the surrounding Oromia region (since Addis Ababa city is expanding). The Amhara ethnic youth also followed the Oromos because of old bitterness to the ruling party. Amhara youth consider the government led by EPRDF (a party found by the TPLF) have abolished the century year old Amhara dominance in Ethiopia governance. References: -

• https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36940906
• https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39619979
• https://www.dw.com/en/anti-government-protests-growing-in-ethiopia/a-19461345
• https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/ethiopia-mass-protests-rooted-country-history-180219130441837.html

Human rights abuse was not the reason for the 2016 protests (though the organization Human Rights Watch was reporting there were people dying during the protest). The human rights abuse & corruption accusation of government members started coming in on mid-2018, which certain politicians are calling a “witch hunt” to selectively crack-down on Tigrayans government members/workers/politicians. References:-

• https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ethiopia-politics-tigray/nobody-will-kneel-tigrayans-defiant-as-ethiopian-leader-cracks-down-idUSKBN1OF05F
• https://www.africanews.com/2018/11/20/tigray-chair-says-ethiopia-pm-conducting-political-and-ethnic-witch-hunt/
• https://www.africanews.com/2018/12/17/ethiopia-pm-s-crackdown-targeting-tigrayans-ex-minister/
• https://www.africanews.com/2018/12/07/ethiopia-s-tigray-region-plans-respect-the-constitution-rally/

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ana ChaChu (talk • contribs) 21:14, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your perspective and for the useful sources. I look forward to you attempting the necessary additions and/or amendments to our article to reflect them. Please continue to discuss any controversial edits here. BushelCandle (talk) 21:27, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Later: after a cursory examination of your edit history and prose style, I have made a quick and dirty edit to the article myself since I have a strong suspicion that you may shortly be blocked for sockpuppetry and some of your sources seemed reliable and pertinent. --BushelCandle (talk) 22:02, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

• Sock blocked.
   — Berean Hunter (talk) 11:58, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

2021 Copyedited

Hello there,

I went ahead and cleaned up this article just for readability purposes and to generally make it look and present like a regular Wikipedia article. I didn't add or exclude any content, but just edited for grammar, spelling and punctuation. I'm happy about it!

Among the things I standardized was date spellings, which I did change to my familiar format of 'month date, year'. If that's not how they are presented in Ethiopia, my apologies and please do correct them, but I at least wanted all of the dates to have the same format.

FuunnyFaces (talk) 03:24, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Mischaracterization of Amhara involvement in protests.

Stop deleting information about why Amharas opposed TPLF because it’s well sourced as to why they oppose TPLF. They mostly opposes TPLF due to them claiming that TPLF has disinfranchised those in Wolkite, other people, as well as opposition to ethnic federalism which they claim has caused them to be discriminated against (this is well sourced). Plus info about other accusing Amharas of opposing TPLF because of some sort of claimed Amhara dominance that existed in the past is also retained in the article that some editors like MfactDR inserted without addressing the full context misrepresenting the situation in effect pushing a specific strain of POV. The statement that Amharas only opposed TPLF because of it led to the toppling of “Amhara dominance” is blatant POV-pushing and explicit disinformation, especially when we’ll sourced content explains that Amhara opposition to TPLF is because TPLF was an authoritarian regime that through ethnic federalism the TPLF-led government forcibly divided the country’s regions on ethnic lines and other forms of discrimination that led to ethnic profiling, especially discrimination against people of certain ethnic origins that live outside the regional state that was apportioned to a given ethnic group, and the annexation of Wolkite-Tseged into Tigray Region although Wolkite and Tseged has a heavily mixed ethnicity population (mostly Amhara-Tigrayan) with a sizable Amhara population. These are the claims that have been made and sourced. As a compromise I do not mind editors of the “Amharas oppose TPLF because of wanting Amhara dominance” persuasion to keep their POV, so long as they don’t delete the main reason why most Amharas oppose TPLF, it was due to discrimination, as sources and stated above. 129.174.255.57 (talk) 18:05, 23 November 2021 (UTC)