Talk:2012–13 Chelsea F.C. season

Stop changing Hazard's assists to 5, penalties do NOT count as an assist !!!

Yes, penalties do NOT count as assists. Check every RELIABLE database, Hazard has 3 assists in his first 2 games in Premier League. Penalties won do not count as assists. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.177.70.64 (talk) 09:42, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Community Shield

Why is the Community Shield classed by this article as a friendly? If the Community Shield is a friendly, then the UEFA Super Cup and the FIFA Club World Cup are friendlies too. This definitely needs changing. – PeeJay 12:01, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Key Events

I think this is getting a bit excessive, let's try and trim this down. Krazytea(talk) 18:42, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Community Shield

The reasoning for Torres not being included as joint top scorer is because the Community Shield isn't a competitive fixture. But since when was this the case? It's always been a competitive match, and is recorded in official statistics as such. Hence, appearances and goals recorded in it should be listed. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 15:53, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Totally agree with you. Maybe it's the most unimportant match of the season, maybe winning 10 Community Shields doesn't even compare to winning the league once, but it is A COMPETITIVE fixture, and the goals are counted. Yes, maybe the yellow and red cards are not counted, but it doesn't mean this is a friendly, after all a shield is given to the winning team. Both the goals must be counted, and the assist from Ramires, even the cards must be included (even though they didn't count). I already tried doing so, but all my edits were reverted with the explanation that "it is a friendly match"... --Snakeplissken21 (talk) 22:02, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

hazard assists

Why isn’t hazard listed as the first in the premiere league top assists list?

Iskánder Vigoa Pérez (talk) 01:38, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

First goal against Middlesbrough in FA Cup tie

Different sources credit this goal to either Ramires or Fernando Torres. The majority seem to go with Torres, as do the club's official statistics, so I propose we go with that. *runs off and checks* Ah yes, and the BBC website has now changed from Ramires to Torres. Mjefm (talk) 21:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Starting XIs to be removed from Wikipedia?

This is clearly a matter where you should ask all the people who use Wikipedia everyday what they think; if some die-hard Wikipedia editors thinks it should be removed.

Make a poll with the options "yes", "no" and "no opinion" and close it in, say, three days time, and see what the outcome will be. If the majority says "yes" – then remove it. If not – keep it.

If Wikipedia is a democratic place I would expect it to be like this on matter like this one. – 62.50.178.88 (talk) 00:51, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

There have been discussions about it, and the conclusion multiple times has been to remove this part of articles. See [1], [2]], and [3]. EddieV2003 (talk) 03:40, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Not to mention that Wikipedia is not a democracy. Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 05:17, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Well that is disappointing. Most people don't have the time or interest to participate in all these discussions, or to keep updated on all of them – many people probably don't even know where to go to participate in these discussions.

How many people decided that this should be removed from Wikipedia for example? Probably less than 10 – I'm pretty confident it would have been a different outcome if all the people that uses Wikipedia had got to decide..

So in fact a few die-hard Wikipedia editors effectively runs the show – sounds pretty much like an oligarchy to me. I also noticed that this user pretty much behaves like a small Wiki king. This is quite evident here.

Wikipedia is a great site, but it looks like it has major structural problems, in my opinion. And that is, of course, very disappointing.

I'm sorry, but I probably won't contribute much more to this site if it operates as it looks like. – 62.50.178.88 (talk) 12:34, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

IP, you are more than welcome to join in the discussion [[WT:FOOTY], but I am afraid the consensus is pretty overwhelming. GiantSnowman 12:36, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

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