Talk:2011 New Zealand voting system referendum

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Reason for referendum edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago5 comments4 people in discussion

It would be nice if the article explained why New Zealand is holding this referendum at all. What motivated it? Presumably some people are dissatisfied with the MMP system? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.100.29.197 (talk) 08:47, 5 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

It was an election promise by the National Party at the 2008 election to hold a referendum on the voting system at the next election. I have to find sources first to verify it before writing about it. There is some dissatisfaction with some parts of the system - how one party with 3.65% of the vote gets five seats in Parliament while a party that got 4.07% of the vote got no seats, all because the former party won just one electorate seat - but again, i need to find verifiable sources.

And of course there are people who always are dissatified with MMP - like with any electoral system. Lcmortensen (mailbox) 13:22, 5 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

It would be good to also explain why it was a National Party platform. All this new content would be a useful addition to our article on electoral reform in New Zealand, as well. --Avenue (talk) 15:03, 5 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

I believe the reasoning for the policy was that there was always meant to be a second 'review' referendum but in 2001 or 2002 the Government of the time decided the system was working and did not proceed with one as the legislation was written in a manner that the referendum would only occur at the consent of parliament (essentially like most NZ referendums and all binding ones, National was in opposition and had been the government promising the 2nd referendum so made it policy at the 2005 and 2008 elections. Kaiserm (talk) 08:07, 28 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

The review went ahead, as mandated by the legislation. National actually adopted the policy on a second referendum in 2000. --LJ Holden 21:34, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah right I'm just taking my knowledge of it from remembering Amy Adams speak about the reason and may have forgotten parts of it Kaiserm (talk) 03:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Maps edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

I'd like to include graphs showing results for each question in each electorate; yes/no on first question is relatively easy to show, but what should be shown for the second question, do you think? I envisage something like this (this is the "smacking" referendum data) for Q1

It's possible that all electorates will give the same of the four options(?) for Q2, but does anyone have any suggestions for what it might look like? Shaded by percentage for most popular choice? Ridcully Jack (talk) 02:40, 15 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

The maps will be essential - by the sheer volume of results data we will have for each electorate, showing it graphically will greatly help. I have prepared a page for the referendum data in my user namespace (User:Lcmortensen/Results of the New Zealand voting method referendum, 2011) that I am planning to transfer to article namespace closer to referendum time (mid-November), to remove clutter of electorate breakdowns from the main referendum article. I imagine the main article results section will just have the national results of the referendum for each part, a strip chart for Part A (they're easily enough made using tables) and the maps, with the results article breaking down the results to the 70 individual electorates.

I don't know about the second map - we could always make four maps showing the percentage for each alternative system, or we could just have one map showing the plurality result of the electorate (similar to File:NZ religious denominations.png). Lcmortensen (mailbox) 03:18, 19 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Info Box edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Isn't the box (top right) wrong - it gives the 1993 results for 'keep mmp' and 'change to another system' but the 1993 referendum was for mmp or fptp acording to the text elswhere, so it doesnt really make sense

The top right box shows the results from the a relevant previous referendum for comparison, and will show results for this referendum as well after Nov 26. It will be clearer when the 2011 results are also in the table. Ridcully Jack (talk) 19:58, 15 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

I agree with Anon above - I've added "Yes / No to MMP" after the 1993 result, to make it clearer that that result was from the question of whether to implement MMP or keep FPP. --LJ Holden 05:07, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

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