Talk:2011 Commonwealth Youth Games medal table

Significance?

Just wondering, what is significant about it was the "second time in any British Isles venue"? The British Isles contains the Republic of Ireland, which is not part of the commonwealth. Sure, it's a true statement. Equally it's also true to say it's the second time in any European venue (and probably more significant). The statement from the Chairman of the Organising Committee uses the term British Islands instead as it excludes the Republic - perhaps this is more appropriate? --HighKing (talk) 16:17, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

You are absolutely right about British Islands, but "European venue" is not much significant as very few European countries are part of Commonwealth. Also does the phrase still looks fact to you? — Bill william compton^Talk 16:30, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

As it stood, the statement was factually accurate. The objection was one of a political POV nature, for which see the contributions of the editor who was objecting. The Skywatcher and me (talk) 16:48, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

To expand - the editor in question is tagging instances of British Isles all over the place, and even trying to get articles deleted which happen to include the usage (see UK Alfa Romeo Owners Club). This cannot be allowed in Wikipedia. The Skywatcher and me (talk) 16:51, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

But still it's a moot point. Geographically speaking British Isles include Ireland also, which is not a part of the Commonwealth of Nations. I'm not in position to judge the other user's contributions, so can we have commentary of relevant WikiProject members? — Bill william compton^Talk 16:59, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Maybe that's not relevant. British Isles does include Northern Ireland, but in any case I'm not aware of a requirement that use of British Isles should have to include the Republic of Ireland. The Skywatcher and me (talk) 17:07, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Eh! Consensus? Where was the consensus to change in the first place? We simply had someone who objects to a particular term, who then convinced you to change it. The Skywatcher and me (talk) 17:09, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Given the discussion above, I'd say the subject matter expert is a better judge of the content especially in light of reference within the Chairman's statement to use "British islands". Either that, or the claim really has no significance as it's not a claim I've seen made anywhere else, so an element of WP:OR may also be present. --HighKing (talk) 23:37, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Bill, I've retagged the article more to bring the claim back to your attention - not sure if you gave up on this due to the levels of hostility shown by Skywatcher. There is a consensus to make the change and sound reasoning given the reasons we've outlined above. The only reason put forward by Skywatcher (who is currently blocked) was not based on policies or practice. --HighKing (talk) 10:58, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

HighKing, I usually never fall in edit warring, and Skywatcher had already reverted me thrice. I was waiting for some more knowledgeable to comment here, and may be a third opinion. But as Skywatcher is currently blocked and we both had agreement over the usage of Island in spite of Isles, I'm going to change it back, and hope you don't mind if I remove the {{cn}} tag. — Bill william compton^Talk 14:25, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Bill, I think the claim is now more relevant to the topic, and the terminology is in line with that used by the Chairman. --HighKing (talk) 15:01, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

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