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Rally for Relief

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Per Federer's Facebook page: This Sunday at 2p on Rod Laver Arena we are going to do a charity match called "Rally for Relief" to help raise money for the relief efforts for the devastating floods in Queensland. Lots of the games stars will participate. It should be a lot of fun.

I think this merits a mention comme Hit For Haiti last yr. --Madchester (talk) 05:00, 13 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Done and added how players are raising money in other ways leading up to the AO which are not orgainsed by TA. KnowIG (talk) 12:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

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I will review this article in the next days. Looks good.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 21:09, 6 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
    word choice, lead are the major issues here
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
    You haven't got much references for example:
    While Nalbandian had to retire against Berenkis and Bellucci lost 8–6 in the final set to Hernych.
    The 2011 women's draw was missing its defending champion Serena Williams who pulled out in late 2010 due to ligament damage.
    The fourth round saw Ferrer end Raonic's run, and Dolgopolov edge out Soderling in the final set for the biggest upset in the tournament to date
    A few small issues, for example:
    <ref>{{citenews|url=http://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/confidential/tennis-champs-unite-to-rally-for-relief-for-queensland-flood-victims-ahead-of-australian-open/story-e6frf96o-1225987690550|title=Tennis champs unite to Rally for Relief for Queensland flood victims ahead of Australian Open|date=14 January 2011|publisher=heraldsun,com.au|author=Tonya Turner}}</ref> - heraldsun.com.au, also it's the work and not the publisher; the publisher is Herald and Weekly Times (publisher for news are newspapers), and many more work/publisher issues.
    Much information are false (no retrieval dates, false parameter usage), for example:
    <ref>{{citenews|url=http://sport.delfi.ee/news/tennis/eesti/kaia-kanepi-langes-australian-openil-konkurentsist.d?id=38632075&l=wforte|title=Kaia Kanepi langes Australian Open´il konkurentsist |language=German|date=19 January 2011}}</ref> - the language is "Estonian", the domain explains and no retrival date
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  
    I am sorry but this article is not ready. Please ask for copyedit. However it is very near to get the status, if it is copyedited. Better luck next time!
General
  • Too much linking of WTA and ATP, instead just write the abbreviation
  • Could you merge the logo to the infobox?

You know dam well that I can't

Lead
  • The 2011 Australian Open was a men's and women's tennis tournament which took place at Melbourne Park in Melbourne, Australia, from 17 January to 30 January. - "at the Melbourne Park"

Nobody describes it as the melbourne park

  • It was the 99th edition[1] of the Australian Open and the first Grand Slam event of 2011. - Avoid place refs somewhere inside the sentence; instead after period or comma.
  • The tournament was played on hard courts and was organised by the International Tennis Federation and Tennis Australia.[2] - link to hardcourt (not everybody knows exactly what it is)


  • Explain what is "maiden"; my dictionary says it means "girly".

It means first how thick are you

  • leaving her one away from a career Grand Slam. - ???

Again how thick are you I'm resubitting

  • In the junior tournaments the titles were whitewashed by Jiří Veselý and An-Sophie Mestach who claimed their first titles in both singles and doubles play. - whitewashed? What do you mean?

Again are you thick

  • Vesely won the doubles alongside Filip Horanský whilst Mestach won her doubles crown with Demi Schuurs - you should write the grave accents (Veselý)

Why don't you put them on

  • Vesely and Mestach became the first players to achieve the junior double together in any Grand Slam since Kristian Pless and Virginie Razzano achieved this together at the 1999 Australian Open. reference needed

Don't need refs in lead

  • The wheelchair titles saw Shingo Kunieda and Esther Vergeer win the singles and doubles in the men's and women's events. - the title saw it? Could you reword it?

Put a suggestion in then

  • Kunieda won his fourth consecutive Australian Open, his fifth overall. - citation needed?

Its the lead

  • In the doubles Kuneda was partnered to the title by Maikel Scheffers. - sounds odd for me. What about was partnered with ...?

Ah finally something sensible

  • Vergeer's singles win was her eighth Australian Open crown, her seventeenth overall, and the fourth time that she has not lost a game during a Grand Slam final - what crown please? And no references for all the statistic.

A its lead b have you never heard of crown

  • The win in the final was her four hundred and fourth consecutive match win, she was partnered by Sharon Walraven in the doubles. - the same, no ref.

It the lead

  • Why do you write "crown"? I thought they get a "trophy"?

Artistic expression so I don't say the samething over and over

Tournament
  • Plus there was also events for wheelchair tennis players (they competed in three categories: men, women and quads) which was part of the NEC tour, under the grand slam category. - I would remove the "Plus" and just begin with "There were" (were not was); Could you merge the phrase between the brackets with the sentence? What is the NEC tour? Grand Slam should be capitalized, as it is a proper name.

NEC tour is the tour for Wheelchairs or are you just dumb from what is clearly implied

  • (The Hisense and Rod Laver Arenas have roofs which allow play to continue indoors should the roof be needed). - very odd sentence. I don't understand why you put the brackets before and after it. It is also unreferenced.

Another silly suggestion

Points and prize money
Seniors points
  • I don't understand why you wrote in the row "Round of 64" and in the column "Men's Doubles" a "0" and didn't merge with the cells down under. Also replace the en-dash with an em-dash.

Cause it starts at the round of 64

Players
Professional players
Singles Seeds
  • Final lost against Serbia Novak Djokovic[22] why you chose "against" but not "to" like you did for everybody (except the winner)?

I didn't write that

  • knee and wrist injury [50] delete the space between "injury" and the ref.

Not deleting the space everything else has a space

  • no references: Final lost to Belgium Kim Clijsters, Second round lost to France Alizé Cornet
  • Quarterfinals lost to People's Republic of China Li Na [78] space too much like above
  • ("Withdrawals" under "Women's Singles") all too much space

really

  • Also you need to add a key that explain what the green background is.
Main Draw wildcard entries
  • Tennis Australia awarded eight wildcards for the men's and women's professional singles competitions. - delink "Tennis Australia" and link "wildcards".

No TA hasn't been linked or mentioned for ages

  • As the Australian Open is promoted as "the Grand Slam of Asia/Pacific" one male and one female player from this geographical area will be awarded a wildcard. - delete "As...Pacific"" and start with simply "One male... player from Asia/Pacific...".
  • Former Australian grand slam champions, Pat Rafter and Todd Woodbridge helped to select the four discretionary wildcards in the men's draw. - Grand Slam should be capitalized
  • Why is "Wildcard" capitaliced under the text?

Whoops

Qualifiers entries
  • In the men's singles one hundred and twenty eight players, including eight wildcards competed for sixteen entries into the main draw of the 2011 Australian Open. - "eight players, including eight wildcards,..."
  • On the second day of qualifying, the entire schedule was washed out by rain. - I thought the stadions were washed out...

What the heck are you trying to say

  • Why is "Qualifiers" capitalized?
Fundrasing of the Queensland floods
  • The Association of Tennis Professionals and the Women's Tennis Association will donate ten dollars for every ace served during the Australian Open and as well as during the two pre tournament joint events in Brisbane, before the Pat Rafter Arena was flooded four days after the conclusion of the 2011 Brisbane International,[113] and Sydney. - no ref for sydney? "pre-tournament" instead of "pre tournament".

It's in the previous ref. Why hypthan it.

  • In total from the ATP and WTA's $10 per an ace drive they managed to raise $51,070 while Roddick donated over $10,000 from his personal pledge.[117] - "per ace"

Doesn't make sense read aloud

  • On January 16, Roger Federer, Rafael Nadal, Justine Henin, Kim Clijsters, Novak Djokovic, Andy Roddick, Andy Murray, Caroline Wozniacki, Vera Zvonareva, Ana Ivanovic, Victoria Azarenka, Lleyton Hewitt and Queenslanders Sam Stosur and Pat Rafter played a charity match at Rod Laver Arena to raise money for the flood efforts. - all delist except last.

Why none of them have been mentioned yet and for ages

  • Tickets to the event cost twenty dollars, and other events – such as an auction of shirts signed by the players – also took place.[118] - delete about the tickets (trivia)

No, it gives a sense of how much was raised

Events
Seniors
  • The Association of Tennis Professionals and Women's Tennis Association awarded ranking points in all events apart from the mixed doubles. - delink WTA and ATP

Again new section why delink

Men's Singles
  • Fish lose to Robredo and Montanes lost to Malisse. - lost to
Women's Singles
  • Her opponent in the final, Clijsters, won in straight sets against Zvonerava.[53]In the final Clijsters came from a set down to claim her first Australian Open title. It was her fourth grand slam title in her career and second consecutive slam having won the US Open in 2010.[131] - after "Zvonareva.[53]" there is a space missing.
Men's Doubles
  • Those teams that lost in the second round of the event are the two teams of Mark Knowles and Michal Mertiňák the 12 seeds, and the 14th seeded Jonathan Erlich and Andy Ram. - 12th seeded
  • which those was the 4th seeded team of Łukasz Kubot and Oliver Marach, Mariusz Fyrstenberg and Marcin Matkowski the 5 seeded team, the 6th seeded and 2010 Wimbledon Champions Jürgen Melzer and Philipp Petzschner, and the 8th seeded team of Michaël Llodra and Nenad Zimonjić. - same.
  • Thus, only three seeded teams survived to make it to the semifinals, which the lone team to lose during this stage was the second seeded team of Max Mirnyi and Daniel Nestor. - I don't understood...
  • This set up a dynamic final of the 1st and 3rd seeded teams respectively in the Bryan Brothers and the Indian duo of Mahesh Bhupathi and Leander Paes, which the Indian team never has won the Australian Open in men's doubles. - avoid words like "dynamic", because this is against NPOV

I didn't write it and am going to rewrite the whole section

  • A few Championship match result are not sourced.
Wheelchair Quad Singles
  • round robin should be linked
Day by day summary of all events
  • I don't understand why "main article template" is at the bottom instead under "Events"

Do you think that should be in the article at all. KnowIG (talk) 18:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

Matters got rather out of control in (and as a result of) the review above; GOP has agreed to withdraw from the review, so the best thing is for a new reviewer to start again with a clean slate. BencherliteTalk 14:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Reviewer: AGK [] 12:17, 22 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Hey. Noting that the writer's indef-blocked, but if the only concerns with the article are minor I can take a stab at it. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:25, 26 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Failed "good article" nomination

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This article failed its good article nomination. This is how the article, as of March 28, 2011, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?:  Fail – The quality of writing within this article, and especially in the lead, is poor. The lead does not seem to provide an overview of the subject matter (as it should, per WP:LEAD).
2. Factually accurate?:  Pass – No obvious inaccuracies, and sourcing is fine.
3. Broad in coverage?:  Pass – Covers most obvious aspects of the subject.
4. Neutral point of view?:  Pass – Article uses a neutral point of view throughout.
5. Article stability?  Pass – Article is not subject to rapid changes or edit warring at present, and is not about a current event.
6. Images?:  Pass – Good volume of images, spread sensibly throughout the article.

The quality of writing within this article is so poor as to be distracting to the reader. Even controlling for the allowance for not necessarily perfect prose that is written into the GA criteria, this article does not meet the requirements, and would require, in my view, a sizeable investment of effort if another GA nomination were to be successful.

When these issues are addressed, the article can be renominated. If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it have it reassessed. Thank you for your work so far.— AGK [] 15:38, 28 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Tables

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Given they aren't visible by default they seem well worth including. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:16, 20 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Edit request from 2.37.139.96, 23 June 2011

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There are many errors in the single players

2.37.139.96 (talk) 07:45, 23 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Sources need to be found then :). -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 07:46, 23 June 2011 (UTC)Reply
Can you list a few so they can be fixed? Just saying there's errors doesn't help us very much. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:16, 23 June 2011 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 28 January 2012

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The players are listed as having won GRAND SLAMS. This is VERY inaccurate. This tournament is a MAJOR TOURNAMENT. It takes winning 4 in a calendar year to win a GRAND SLAM--not just one major. Rod Laver and only a handful of others, in the entire history of the game, are the only ones to win Grand Slams. 75.211.188.164 (talk) 02:27, 28 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

"Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".  Chzz  ►  03:18, 28 January 2012 (UTC)Reply
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