Talk:200 (Stargate SG-1)/Archive 1

Speculation

Some of the trivia borders on a violation of WP:NOT, in that it predicts future events. Unless we have some significant sources that we can cite, I think speculation should probably be removed until the episode's content is known. -Harmil 16:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Luckily, it's aired now. :) I'm assuming that the Trivia section mentioned the pre-stated Firefly/Serenity reference? The producers actually did say in an interview somewhere that it (which does indeed occur in the episode) was intentional, a "little kiss" to Firefly. I know, because I saw it linked from a Firefly message board; set half the fandom on fire with glee, heh. Anyway, I'll dig up a source for that right quick. ;) I might not be able to cite it with the proper format, but I'll put it here so's people can use it. Runa27 04:28, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Plot

"An alien device turns members of the Stargate crew into zombies that overrun the base. SG-1 must get rid of the device to stop them."

I believe this is from Late Night with Conan O'Brien when Pierre Bernard visits the Stargate SG-1 set to be a zombie in episode 200. In the ensuing clip, Cameron Mitchell is holding an alien device in the gate room while zombies (including O'Brien, Bernard's character) pry open the doors. Mitchell says something to the extent of "I better get this strange alien device through this open stargate before these zombies eat me.

The quote is actually more along the lines of "Dial [Gate address] now! We have to get [name alien device] out of here or we'll never stop these things!". That's not it exactly, but Mitchell explained that the device is what caused everyone to turn into zombies. Runa27 04:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

"exclusive content" on SciFi.com

I wonder what the exclusive content they promised us on the website is. dposse 00:54, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

If you find out, let me know - the site was down when I tried to get on. --Tim4christ17 03:05, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

I found out. It's a blooper of the new Atlantis episode. If the website gets back up before 2am EST, the password is Fletcher. dposse 03:09, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Citizen Joe reference

I think we can safely get rid of this one. Just because a show is canceled after an episode doesn't mean it just stops right after that episode. Just look at Star Trek: Enterprise. The show was canceled after IaMD, but they still aired the rest of the episode. --Kevin W. 06:42, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Order

I think that if we are to be listing every single referance in the trivia section, it should at least be ordered chronologically for the episode.

Done --Achmelvic 23:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Congrats to whoever did that, it's looking MUCH better now. Joylock 01:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Movie Cancellation and Show Renewal

I think the backstory where Wormhole X-Treme originally being made into a movie, then the movie was cut and the show renewed for additional TV episodes was also a nod at SG-1 itself. Specifically, the episode Lost City was originally going to be a movie finale for the series, but then became the season finale after the show was renewed. This back and forth between a movie and renewing the series seems to shadow SG-1's history. Anyone else see that? Worth adding to the triva list? --Nick 128.187.134.8 20:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Already there. --Bark 21:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

It's also a reference to Firefly, which was brought back as the feature film Serenity, allegedly because of strong DVD sales (in truth, the production was only spurred further by the DVD sales; Whedon states in Serenity: The Official Visual Companion that Universal was already interested in creating the movie after seeing Firefly). I can confirm this as being an intentional reference: there's an interview somewhere with one or more of the producers of SG-1 calling it a "kiss to Firefly". I'm going to dig that up real soon so you can see it, as soon as I can find the link again. One could also argue of course that it's just as close a mirror to the fate of Farscape, which found conclusion as a made-for-TV four-hour miniseries, but that hasn't, to the best of my knowledge, been confirmed as delibrate. Interesting point of fact - Farscape's sequel was made for TV, but Serenity was a feature film that actually recieved a theatrical release. But, apparently it can only be confirmed as a Firefly/Serenity reference. Hmm. Runa27 04:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Ironically, it may actually look like the 'movie being back on' is oddly prophetic. Today Gateworld announced that SG-1 is cancelled, 3 days after 200th aired.

Confirmed by Sci-Fi wire

Producer Robert Cooper encourages fans to keep watching

Thirty Eight

I don't think the reference to 38 was just the number of minutes a stargate can be open, 38 has appeared several other times; not only is it the limit of minutes a stargate can be open, it is also the number of symbols on a DHD, and it is also the number of Ion Cannons the Tollan were going to provide to Earth. (Just wondering if anyone else noticed these things)

Whoa! A multi-layered in-joke! My God, I feel like slightly less of a nerd for not noticing that until now. :P That's all kinds of awesomeness, though. Add it in! Runa27 04:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

There are 39 symboles on the DHD in SG-1 and 36 in Atlantis. ≈ Seraph 31 08:34, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

No, there are 39 symboles existing, but only 38 are on a Dial-Home_Device 15:58, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Aren't there 38 universal symbols plus the point of origin on a DHD? Maartentje 22:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Puppet Scene

I added some information I found at Zap2It regarding the Puppet scene. --Jeff

Um... Supermarionation 'may be' a reference to the works of Gerry Anderson??? More likely Thunderbirds or Team America???? WTF? Sorry, Gerry Anderson DID Thunderbirds (as well as several other shows). Team America is the style used but it, itself was a parody of Supermarionation... Supermarionation is a term invented by Anderson for his puppet shows in his style, there is no may be... and Thunderbirds shouldn't be referenced as an alternative to Anderson as it was him... Confused yet? sorry garbled that... um... I'll just edit it 21:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)~

Edits to the Trivia section

I made some considerable edits to the Trivia section. I'm detailing what I consider to be the biggest ones here:

Precredits sequence

In the first section, I mainly just tweaked it for prose.

• Dr. Jackson asks "who makes a movie out of a series that only lasted three episodes?" to which Teal'c replies that it had strong DVD sales. This has been confirmed by the producers as being a reference to Firefly (which ran for 11 episodes out of a produced 14) and Serenity (the movie made from the Firefly series on the basis of strong episodes and high DVD sales figures). The in-joke is somewhat extended in the conversation Martin has on his cellphone in his first appearance in the episode, in which he says he'll take the movie to another studio if the present one doesn't like the budget; Joss Whedon actually did switch studios to produce Serenity, moving it from Fox to Universal. Martin also insists, like Firefly/Serenity, that the movie would not use footage from the original series as it is "not a clip show" (though it should be noted that it's possible Firefly did not reuse footage for other reasons).

As I mentioned further up in this same Talk page, there's an interview somewhere that confirms this to be a delibrate refernence to Firefly/Serenity. I'm going to dig it up so you can see it for yourself and cite it (which I'm still not quite sure how to do yet myself).

• Col. Mitchell says there should be a "strong opening [credit] sequence", to which Martin replies "No one does that anymore. Just throw the title screen up there and get on with it!". The producers then do exactly that. Aside from the more obvious gag, this in-joke is also a reference to the shortened openings of Season 9's first 10 episodes.

I corrected this so that the quotes were a little more accurate (I'm sure I'm right on Mitchell's, mostly-sure on Martin's), and for prose.

Missing main man

• Martin complains that his main actor has pulled out of the film, and asks what to do. Cameron suggests simply replacing him with another character, which everyone seems to think wouldn't work. This is a nod to the fact that Richard Dean Anderson's character, Col. Jack O'Neill, was replaced on SG-1's roster by Ben Browder's character, Col. Cameron Mitchell. The joke is furthered with the idea of making occassional references to the guy and talking to him on the phone, which has occured numerous times since O'Neill's departure from SG-1.

Mentioned character names so people who aren't fans who've memorized the cast list can follow it a little better. Plus, there should of course be an extra apostrophe in O'Neill's, since, as clunky as it may look, that's the proper format for the posessive.

• Martin suggests body-swapping, while Vala deems his idea to be ridiculous. Daniel then rolls his eyes at her. This sequence is a reference to the fact that "body-swapping" has occurred multiple times in SG-1 itself: when Ma'chello swapped bodies with Daniel ("Holiday"), and when both Daniel and (ironically) Vala herself temporarily inhabited the bodies of a pair of people in another galaxy ("Avalon").

Edited for prose, also, it's not a reference to just any single episode, apparently, since a form of body-swapping has appeared in multiple episodes, so I changed it to reflect that.

Invisible O'Neill

• In the scene with Daniel writing on the whiteboard he says "And so by translating this tablet we should be able to determine the most important thing in the universe" followed by O'Neill's snoring references to the amazing coincidence that the most important things in the universe always seem to be on some hidden tablet.

Had to edit this puppy for prose. Just had to. It wasn't grammatical! It now reads:

• In the scene with Daniel writing on the whiteboard he says "And so by translating this tablet we should be able to determine the most important thing in the universe" (which is followed by O'Neill's snoring). This scene references the fact that the most important things in the universe always seem to be on some hidden tablet in the series.

And then we have...

• Martin discards the idea, saying that invisibility is too powerful. Sam proposes inventing negative side effects. This is actually a reference to "Uninvited", where the Sodan cloaking device was discovered to have a side effect preventing humans from safely using it.

The final line of which I changed to:

This is probably a reference to "Uninvited", where the Sodan cloaking device was discovered to have a side effect preventing humans from safely using it.

Since it couldn't be confirmed, I figured "probably" worked better, since the reference is vaguer, unlike the "missing main man" references.

Star Trek parody

I added Cameron's quote in. Come on, it's hysterical! Especially considering some of the plots on the series itself. And coming from Cameron Mitchell, at that! :P By the way, the wording is exact on this one; I just rewound my recording of the episode and checked.

Runa27 05:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

I'm a little confused--I added in the bit about the reference to Bewitched in the Star Trek parody section, which seems perfectly harmless, and some person with username Roodolfo reverted it on the basis of "repulsive vandalism." What's so repulsive or vandalizing about this? These are clearly analogous situations--where a "Samantha" is being asked to perform some sort of "magical" feat--literally in the sitcom and figuratively in Stargate SG-1. WTH is going on?

h27kim 02:30, Jan 28 2007 (PST)

Final SG-1 scene

I heard somewhere RDA wears a cap that he wore on MacGuyver as he walks up the ramp here. Can someone verify and add it to the trivia? Thanks.--70.18.177.36 03:33, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Also, when Walter changes costumes, he puts on a helmet. Helmets used to be used in the beginning of the show, but then SG-1 tossed them not long after... in this case, it's Walter's first trip offworld. In Moebius, when SG-1 messes up the timeline so that the Stargate is never found and the SGC never formed, the alternate timeline shows a alternate SGC forming... and everyone is wearing helmets again. Except Jack, who wears a cap, and there's some comment about helmets that I can't recall at the moment. I think it'd make good trivia, though.--70.18.177.36 03:38, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Nice article, but what about WP:NOR?

I hate to ask this, as this's a really nice article - but what about WP:NOR? Is it possible to introduce references for the various facts given in this article? Mike Peel 20:40, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

To give an indication of what references need to be here: each time we say that something in the show is a reference to something else, we need to provide a reference - ideally to an interview with a cast member/producer saying that that was the intended meaning. Otherwise, it's original research. I was going to put citation needed labels in the appropriate places, but too many would be needed at the moment. Mike Peel 19:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

I've added "Citation Needed" to some sentences. Generally, mine fall under two categories. One, citations that should be easily available if we know where to look. For example, what issue of Variety had the Firefly petition? Two, statements where we are trying to read the producers' minds. We can't do that, so if something is an out-of-universe reference, it needs a citation to back it up. Otherwise it's speculation. Note that I didn't tag the "Back to the Future" because "flux capacitor" itself is the reference as it's unique to that universe; I also didn't tag "Team America: World Police" because there is a citation that the same puppet company did the work. Now, if we soften the wording, we can keep the points. For example, "inspired by" needs a citation because it's a definite (the producers INTENDED ...), but "similar to" is soft enough to pass because it could be coincidental and it helps describe the point being made. Just some of my thoughts on the matter. --Bark 20:47, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

• "[The Furlings] were featured, but not in a way that fans had expected." --Why and how? I'm a fan, and this is how I expected them to be featured. This statement needs a citation or it needs to be removed.

• "This has been confirmed by the producers as being a reference to Firefly..." --"Confirmed" is a strong word. If it's "confirmed", then please do so with a citation or reword it to softer language, like "This may be a reference to..." I would have softened it myself, but "confirmed" is such a strong word, that if it's a true statement, I don't want to remove someone's contribution.

• "The 'on-screen ticking clock' discussion is a reference to 24, a series that features a literal ticking clock in its opening and closing, and in lead-ins to and from commercial breaks." --I changed it to "may be a reference" because we can't be 100% sure on this unless the producers said it straight out.

• "...but might also be referring to the series 24 that they referenced a few seconds earlier." --Changed to "may have" like the one before.

• "Besides the phrasing sounding somewhat unusual coming from Mitchell, this is also probably poking fun at film and television producers in general for resorting to ridiculous plotlines, especially in science fiction series - something the Stargate series itself has sometimes been accused of." --What's "ridiculous"? There's no definite standard, so this is POV. I've reworded some and removed some.

• "Martin reports the Wormhole X-Treme movie has been canceled because the show was picked up again echoes the Stargate writers' plans for a movie always being disrupted by the show being renewed." --This should be easily referenced. (Easily if you know where to look.)

• "Possibly a reference to Leonard Nimoy..." --Huh? What? Who? Where did this come from? Where does the connection between an Isaac Asimov quote and Leonard Nimoy come from?

--Bark 14:35, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

About the Furlings, the fans thought we were going to meet an actual Furling. In the episode, Sam just imagines a furling while she is reading martin's script. Also, the entire furling-scene is only a parody of the Ewoks, one of many on the show (o'neill calling them "fluffy" in "Paradise Lost" and the barber's aid even comparing them to the ewoks in "Citizen Joe")Maartentje 22:36, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

"About the Furlings, the fans thought we were going to meet an actual Furling." Naive fans maybe. It was no secret this was a parody episode. The Ewok-like Furlings are what most fans expected. (See, I just said "what most fans expected". Can I support this? Nope. Neither can anyone else support "the fans thought we were going to meet an actual Furling". Both statements violate Wikipedia's policy of POV because they are opinions, not facts. Get my point yet?) --Bark 13:24, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

"The planet is referred to as "P2C106", which may mean "the planet to see in episode 10-6" (season 10, episode 6)."

Well, I guess it COULD mean that... But really, have we got any reason to assume it does? I admit, when I watched this episode just now, I was sitting there trying to work out if P2C106 had some meaning beyond most other planet designations, and I guess whoever added this must have been doing the same thing. - Adaru 13:29, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Asimov quote

Hi.

I noticed that the earlier edition ignored the Asimov quote at the episode's end. I added it in to the article - which is the most poignant message this episode sends, made even more clearly through the otherwise understated 'Teal'c' character. --Nerroth 23:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

The keyboard

I just now noticed (in the puppet scene) that the "gate" keyboard is a classic IBM PC keyboard.

However, some keys are clearly rearranged (the function keys) and one of them is not even attached to the keyboard, jumping around.

Maybe there is a secret message on the keyboard (I can't read it, too fuzzy)

--

It says 'Alex Sucks Dicks'. No kidding...

See http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41934&d=1164283008

To whoever reverted the edit - If you're going to revert something in 'talk' please give a greason why. This is a verifiable fact, adds to the article and answers the question posed by the original submitter. 81.187.26.106 15:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Removed Content

The following was removed, I belive wrongly:

Claudia Black/Vala says "Drezz" which of all the words said is not an actual Farscape Expletive, ironic because Claudia is playing her original character Aeryn Sun.

Reason: It's true, how can it be invalid?

(a referance to the times they have received important information via text through the gate)

Reason: What other point of him recieving the message could there be? Who hasn't thought "They opened a wormhole through space time just to send some lousy text?" when it occurs in the series?

How can you cite that? You would either have to find a reliable source that specificially says that drezz isn't a Farscape expletive (and Farscape fans aren't reliable sources), or you would have to find a list of Farscape expletives from a reliable source, and simply say that "drezz" isn't on the list (which implies that drezz either isn't a Farscape expletive, or isn't a notable enough one to be on the list). Ironic is an opinion, so you would have to say "Editorialist X considers this ironic because...." Or you could just say, "However, Claudia is..." and let the reader draw their own conclusions. As a point of interest, dren is a Farscape expletive, but saying that dren was what Claudia Black meant (or was parodying?) would be WP:OR (unless you can find a source to back it up). Armedblowfish (talk|mail|contribs) 23:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Young SG-1 = Battlestar Galactica

The "Young SG-1"-scene actually also is a reference to Battlestar Galactica ("younger, edgier" cast), the O'Neil and Carter-versions looking very much like Apollo and Starbuck, the Daniel-version looks a lot like Chief whatshisname, Vala as Boomer is pregnant, and the Goa'uld woman (Number six) is being shot while kissing someone.

Where's the official reference that we can cite? --Bark 23:42, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry. I was kinda tired when writing that. Replace "actually" with "probably". I am unaware of any official reference to the fact, but to me at least the similarity is too striking to be coincidental. The new Battlestar Galactica series was shot with a younger cast, which looks a lot like the actors used in the scene (Faces, Hair style, costumes), and several parts of the Galactica story are referenced (Apollo-Starbuck Relationship, Cylon-shot-while-kissing, pregnancy). Then again, if noone else thinks so, I may be mistaken.

--Drangon 10:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

To be honest I can't imagine the writers or production ppl for this ep were thinking of BSG for the young SG-1 scene, seems a bit too much reading ideas into it IMHO. Obviously it parodys the teen shows that are already mentioned but (like you say) whilst the 'new' BSG is more 'modern' it's a bit too subtle to think they were thinking of it in this sequence, the reason why i think this ep works really well is that it's not too subtle, ie most of the refs are pretty obvious so accesible but good with them...now if they'd had a humanoid cylon hanging around in the background... ;-) --Achmelvic 00:31, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

It's an interesting thought - one of my thoughts going away from the episode is that about the only thing they didn't skewer in SciFi land was BSG - but the camera work (among other things) doesn't really support that thesis unless you can find a reference to it. Old64mb 00:15, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I took another good look at it, and the similarity really is not as striking as I remembered it. However, I still believe there's something there. The "Goa'uld Chick" just looks too much like Number six with the white clothes, and I just noticed that Young Vala (Boomer) complains that "I am a real person", which might be another allusion, or more probably just part of the Beverly Hills spoof... Ah well, I guess unless there's an official statement the 'evidence' is not convincing enough. ;-)

--Drangon 10:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Golf

When Fake Carter says she "should have taken up Golf years ago"- forgive me if I'm wrong, but was that line invoking the stereotype of women professional golfers being homosexual? Possibly saying that she felt her character displayed lesbian tendencies- Sam has been thought to be a lesbian in fan circles before, this line could possibly a reference to that. -66.226.105.98 06:24, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Carter a lesbian? Please. That's one of the silliest things I have ever heard. In ten years, has Carter ever flirted with a woman? Nope. Has she done a guy? Yep. Has she carried a torch for a guy? Yep. --Bark 13:30, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

The article mentions Jack/Daniel slash even though there's never been any indication that they're gay, and they've both been married to women. The "Carter is a lesbian" stuff has been around since the imfamous "Just because my sexual organs are on the inside" speech in the first episode. I didn't say it made sense, (and I'm pretty sure Carter is not a lesbian) I just wondered what the golf line was a reference to. -66.226.105.98 00:38, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

We need a cite for this "thought to be a lesbian in fan circles", though (not to mention the women lesbian golfers stereotype). The difference between that and Jack/Daniel slash is that the reference is very specific to slash fiction, of which there are numerous examples, so that's perfectly verifiable. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 01:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Lesbian? Um...Perhaps you all are thinking a bit too far. It was probably a reference to "Window of Opportunity". See pic. ~ Porphyric Hemophiliac § 04:16, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Filming of the scene about the "orifice"

it felt to me as though the o'neill segment and the "everyone else" segment were filmed at different times, it might be a mechanism by which to poke fun at cheesy sci fi as they did throughout the episode <the directing style was very erratic> did anyone else notice this? 75.0.14.233 12:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Missing Previous Cast (Notes)

I believe the notes section is incorrect, i did not see Dr. Janet Fraser in this episode either.

In the puppet scene, they is a puppet that looks like early Janet Fraiser in the background, but that's about it and I think it should be edited to include Janet.

I like Janet, but I think we should limit it to regular cast members. Else we'd have to include other recurring characters like Bra'tac, Kinsey, Maybourne, etc. Wl219 03:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I saw Janet standing there too - there are several scenes where you see Carter standing in the background and next to her, a puppet resembling early Janet Fraiser. Maybe it should be mentioned. --Plumcouch ^Talk2Me 20:29, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Too much detail

There is way too much material here. I know the episode covers a lot of ground, but come on! This stuff belongs on a fansite, not here.--Drat (Talk) 13:39, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

I have copy-edited this article and removed several (sub-)entries, mainly for notability, OR and detail. See below. – sgeureka ^t•c 15:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Precredit

• In the fictional episode, the Goa'uld followed SG-1 to the planet and attacked it (this footage of the motherships firing down on to the planet appears to be reused from the episode "Homecoming" in Season 7), consequently causing the planet to explode with a concussion ring similar to the Star Wars special edition movies. Before Carter beams off the planet she shrugs as if to say "sorry, can't win them all." This leads into the "reality" portion of the episode when Carter declares it never happened. -- unnecessary detail
• , though it should be noted that it is possible Firefly did not reuse footage for other reasons. This could also be a reference to the reuse of shots of the Enterprise-D in Star Trek: Generations. Also, in Martin's determination to avoid re-using images from the series and to stick to the budget, he refers to the producers as a bunch of "pencil-pushing, bean counting" idiots, somewhat reminiscent of John Sheridan's comment from Babylon 5 when forced to adhere to budget cuts by Earth. possibly true for many scifi shows, but unsourced

Missing main man

• Both of these also occurred on The X-Files after David Duchovny left that series. It probably also refers to the replacement of Daniel Jackson by Jonas Quinn. -- too much detail; OR
• It also occurred in the Farscape episode Out of Their Minds, in which (again, ironically) Ben Browder played a part.
  • "Body-swapping" may also refer to the fact that the characters of Daniel Jackson and Jack O'Neil/O'Neill were played by James Spader and Kurt Russell (respectively) in the Stargate movie and were later played by Michael Shanks and Richard Dean Anderson in the TV series. -- true but doesn't work with the references given in this ep

Invisible O'Neill

• The name may also be a reference to Invisible Scarlet O'Neil, a 40's newspaper strip. -- farfetched; OR

Cameron's 200

The ticking clock could also be a reference to the first episode of MacGyver, Richard Dean Anderson's TV show prior to SG-1, where a clock is displayed on the screen to show when a bomb will explode. -- true but unlikely; too detailed.

Star Trek parody

• Teal'c states that they are reviewing Scene 24, to which Martin exclaims his love for that particular scene. This is probably a reference to a long joke in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but might also be referring to the series 24 that they may have referenced a few seconds earlier. -- the truth is probably that this scene is Scene 24 in the script of "200", but no-one can prove that
• [Brad Wright] who had previously played a cod-Scottish medic on Atlantis<!-- Proper details required - I'm aware that this comes from Series 2 (episode, commentary & special feature), but not having them to hand makes it difficult to elaborate --> -- contributor seems to confuse Brad Wright with Martin Gero
• Reversing Polarity could also be a reference to the musical Return to the Forbidden Planet, where the "Polarity Reversal Procedure" (which involves waving around of the arms of the cast and audience of the musical) saves the starship from untimely doom. -- might be true but is so non-notable that it isn't even mentioned on the main wiki article
• . In particular, sci-fi fans often become frustrated when, instead of focusing upon the possibilities that can be explored in science fiction (for example, the issue of whether a machine that gains intelligence can be considered a sentient life form, and is entitled to 'human' rights, as was explored with SG-1's android doubles and with the Replicators), television and movie executives assume that science fiction fans possess short attention spans, won't care if the characters speak technobabble gibberish and only want to see big fights between spaceships, attractive women in skimpy outfits and lots of explosions, as when Marty says the audience won't know the difference if the characters spout science gibberish, they love "weapons on maximum," and pushes for lots of explosions. (Many fans, for example, responded extremely negatively when the Tok'ra Anise was introduced, mainly because they felt she was introduced solely because she was portrayed by an attractive actress and wore a skimpy outfit.) -- essay-like. Not really needed here.

Farscape Paradoy

• This parodies the fact Farscape abruptly ended after season 4. Later a mini-series called The Peacekeeper Wars was created to tie up many of the remaining loose ends. -- don't see the relevance here

1969 mission

• [This is most likely a reference to] Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me [or The Terminator], and also probably refers to the fact that "1969" was the first comedic episode. -- I don't see any similar situation stated in Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me or Dr. Evil (I may be wrong here though); "1969" being comedic is irrelevant

In The Terminator the father is not John Connor himself but Kyle Reese.bufalo_1973 12:42, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Puppet sequence

• The "make it spin" line may also be a nod to Star Trek: The Next Generation, where Picard often says "make it so". -- farfetched; OR
• Puppet Hammond's attitude resembles Captain Murphy of Sealab 2021, who often makes childish demands of his crew. This could be because Sealab 2021 made a couple of references to Stargate SG-1 during its run, in particular the episode "Swimming in Oblivion," where the Sealab crew were working on a feature film, and the African American character Quinn was playing a Serpent Guard.-- too non-notable IMO
• Puppet Walter twice mentions "feeling so stupid," possibly a jab at the awkward nature of the character's actions throughout the series, most memorably in the episode where Walter is asked to describe in detail his position within the SGC. --probably right but sounds like Original reasearch nonetheless

Closing Wormhole X-Treme sequence

• Marty learns that "The film's on again," a reference to a Stargate film or films being once again on the cards. Earlier in the episode, Marty says that the film has been cancelled, and instead they are commissioning another series; this references the planned post-Season-7 Stargate SG-1 film being cancelled and instead turned into a feature-length episode ("Lost City"). It is possible that this is referencing MGM's go-ahead with the up-and-coming feature-length movie. -- confusing. Someone might attempt to completely re-write this info and re-include it back
• Possibly a reference to Leonard Nimoy --still not sourced; OR anyway

– sgeureka ^t•c 15:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Orpheus reference?

During the Wizard of Oz sequence, Vala states that she finally feels that she is a part of something. I remember Daniel saying something similar to Teal'c at the end of Orpheus. Is this significant enough to put in the article?--Dani 19:07, 2 June 2007 (UTC)