Talk:2009/Archive 6

Billy Mays

He died this year and should be included —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.232.41.74 (talk) 04:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Discussion had been made long time ago. See Talk:2009/Archive 3#Billy Mays, as well as on the current second subsection of this page.

In any case, he does not meet the critelia for inclusion. See WP:RY.--Belle Equipe (talk) 05:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Billy Mays was a very influential man and was widely known for his skill and charisma in his advertising infomercials. Though perhaps not meeting the 10 languages requirement, Billy Mays deserves the right to be listed here as one of the many people who, sadly, ended their lives this past year.Personplacething (talk) 03:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

This has been discussed at length already, he was influential in the US only so should only be listed in 2009 in the United States. Please see the links that Belle Equipe already gave. FFMG (talk) 04:00, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Northwest Airlines attempted bombing

My post on the attempted bombing on Christmas day in Detroit was recently removed. I feel that this is a large and important event and should be kept. Those with objections, please tell me why you object. Nathanl1192 (talk) 15:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

This has already been discussed earlier in this talk page. FFMG (talk) 15:29, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh I see. Thank you. Nathanl1192 (talk) 19:22, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Kidnapping of Jaycee Lee Dugard and Balloon boy hoax

The Jaycee Dugard and Balloon Boy cases made news internationally not just in the USA. Why are they not on the list of events of 2009? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.32.64.57 (talk) 23:49, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Merely making the news does not make an event internationally notable. To be notable enough for inclusion in this article an event needs to have had some international impact. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 00:52, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

A follow up: Of the two stories I mentioned the Jaycee Dugard case was the more significant. Why was this omitted for 2009 when the Natascha Kampusch case wase listed for 2006? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.110.102.38 (talk) 10:09, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Probably because no-one has applied the WP:RY criteria (which were only arrived at in 2008) to earlier pages, yet. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 19:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Deaths

• December 28 – JamesThe Rev Sullivan, American drummer (born 1981) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.218.120 (talk) 03:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

Non-notable member of non-notable band, therefore insufficiently notable for inclusion in this article. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 07:27, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

James Sullivan is of Avenged Sevenfold, a very notable band and is considered one of the best modern drummers around, his passing is defiantly worthy of being listed in wikipedia Metal1091 (talk) 04:14, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

The requirement for being listed in this article is that someone is internationally notable. The minimum requirement as per WP:RY is 9 foreign language articles. However the quality of those articles also needs to be taken into account. In this case they are mostly stubs or little more, and appear to have been copoied from the English article, most have no references and only a few of those that do have a reference in the local language. This doesn't seem to indicate sufficient notability for this article. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 06:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

• October 19 – Shlomo Lorincz, member of Israeli Knesset for Agudat Yisrael (born 1918)
• December 5 – Levi Yitzchak Horowitz, Hasidic rebbe (born 1921)

-- -- -- 20:31, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Neither is notable enough for inclusion. See WP:RY for the criteria. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 20:37, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

• May 31 – Millvina Dean, the last remaining survivor of the April 15, 1912 sinking of the RMS Titanic (born 1912). Geoffr111 (talk) 14:13, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Consensus is that she is not notable enough. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 19:12, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I would definitely say that she passes the nine foreign language pages, she has many more and while some are quite short, there are many that are longer and the French article is even listed as a good article. Whose consensus is this? That's my two scents 23:18, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

President of the European Council

Just a small point, Herman van Rompuy was designated the position on November 19, not the 3 (as stated by the source). Jgsheppard (talk) 08:20, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from IamRocky20, 19 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

James "The Rev" Owen Sullivan died on December 28, 2009. I would really appreciate it if this was included in the deaths section, thank you.

IamRocky20 (talk) 01:57, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Welcome. According to WP:Recent years, there would need to be ten non-English articles to establish worldwide notability for inclusion here. The Rev only has eight. Sorry. Celestra (talk) 05:07, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

U.S. Conversion to Digital; June 12, 2009

Should we include the U.S. Transition to digital television? After all, it was the first DTV switchover outside of Europe. The event is still profound today. Typingwestern015 (talk) 22:30, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

This has been discussed previously and the consensus is that it is not internationally notable and does not merit inclusion in this article. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 00:12, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I understand. Question: Where does it talk about June 12 in the Archives? I can't find it. Typingwestern015 (talk) 15:55, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

You're right! It was certainly reverted numerous times on the basis that it does not mneet the criteria at WP:RY. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 20:50, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Stephen Gately

Could we add in deaths section? This article is now have over 9 non-English Wikipedia articles. ApprenticeFan ^work 03:48, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, there are certainly plenty of non-English articles, now. Even though many are bare stubs, and others have only English citations, quite a few have local language citations, which would normally be sufficient. However I'm still of the opinion that people don't become more famous after their death, if they were really notable articles about them would have been created while they were alive. Still, it might not be that difficult to get consensus to include, if there are enough people watching this page. DerbyCountyinNZ ^{(Talk Contribs)} 07:13, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion is demonstrably wrong. If a person meets the criteria, the person should be added. GaryColemanFan (talk) 16:17, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm afraid WP:RY defaults to inclusion if there are 9 non-English articles, but I also lean against inclusion. The change to require 9 other articles before death didn't get consensus. On the other hand, Gary is absolutely wrong. Either WP:RY's support for inclusion or exclusion can be overridden by consensus. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:20, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

...as long as we're honest about it and admit that "consensus" is determined by the whims and edit warring of the WP:OWNer of the page. GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 17 October 2011

This article is about the year 2009. For the professional DotA player, see Wu Sheng.

Redefining history (talk) 08:14, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

 Done Although this is a really bad name for a player XD mabdul 11:49, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Deaths

• September 24 – Susan Atkins, American mass murderer and member of the infamous "Manson Family", (b. 1948)
• July 4 – Steve McNair, Amcerican football player, (b. 1973)

Aguy70 (talk) 04:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.168.241.58 (talk) 04:07, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Two out of three edits by user Miszatomic on 22 March 2012 are incorrect. Please remove/correct. Also check other edits by this user. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.242.86 (talk) 19:36, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 June 2012

Can we please take this page off protection status? It seems to be outdated that it still is up considering it was put in place in 2009. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Americium-con (talk • contribs) 03:43, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

important addition

please add:

• February 11 Poland removed from law ongoing non-volunteer military conscription during peace, following European trend in most countries of the continent. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.74.13.170 (talk • contribs) 13 November 2012

I'm going to oppose this for now per WP:RY unless you can demonstrate that it meets the inclusion criteria spelled out there. I'll leave this edit request open for now so that others can weigh in. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 17:25, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Per Kuyabribri, this will need consensus, and does not appear to satisfy WP:RY, unless references can be provided as detailed there. I think it's probably best for now to mark the request answered, as it does not at this point meet the requirements for {{edit semi-protected}}. It can be reactivated at any time (if required) if consensus develops and suitable citations are available.

so, Not done for now: Begoon ^talk 10:02, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Obama Inaugural

Was there some reason why President Obama's January 20th Inaugural was left off of the events of 2009? Considering the history of it and the massive attendance in Washington for it, it *seems* it would merit a mention? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penpusher (talk • contribs) 22:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I reinstated it, as all previous US inaugurals are listed in the YEAR articles. GoodDay (talk) 11:57, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

I removed it, as previous US inaugurals are not subject to WP:RY, with the possible exception of 2005. I have doubts about its relevance in 2009 in the United States, and am sure it is not relevant in Electoral calendar 2009. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 13:53, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Holy smokers. When you considered the American history of slavery & civil rights & he's being the first African-American to hold the office? historic notablility should count. GoodDay (talk) 14:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

That might support Obama's election in 2008, not his inauguration in 2009. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 19:15, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Well anyways, I disagree with this method. It creates the impression that George W. Bush has been US president since 2001. GoodDay (talk) 20:37, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2014

Add this to January 17th: *[[January 17]] ** Israel announces a [[Unilateralism|unilateral]] ceasefire in the Gaza War. It comes into effect the following day,<ref name="ceasefire">{{cite news|title=Israel declares ceasefire in Gaza|publisher=BBC|date=January 17, 2009|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7835794.stm|accessdate=January 17, 2009| archiveurl= http://web.archive.org/web/20090119124946/http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7835794.stm| archivedate= 19 January 2009 <!--DASHBot-->| deadurl= no}}</ref> on which [[Hamas]] declares a ceasefire of its own.<ref name=haaretz18Jan2>{{cite web|last=Issacharoff |first=Avi |url=http://haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1056490.html |title=Haaretz, January 18, 2009 |publisher=Haaretz.com |date=2008-04-02 |accessdate=2010-08-23}}</ref><ref>{{cite news | url = http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/01/18/israel.gaza/index.html | work=CNN | title=Hamas, Israel set independent cease-fires | date=January 18, 2009| accessdate= 9 March 2010 <!--DASHBot-->}}</ref><ref>{{cite news | url = http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7836205.stm | work=BBC News | title=Hamas announces ceasefire in Gaza | date=January 18, 2009| accessdate= 9 March 2010 <!--DASHBot-->}}</ref> ** [[Burj Khalifa]] officially becomes the tallest building in Dubai and in the world.}}</ref> 189.24.249.125 (talk) 10:01, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

• Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Seems controversial aside from being difficult to read. Please provide a consensus for this change. Technical 13 (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Do you think we should unblock this page?

It's up to you guys. But since the recent years pages been unblocked, I thought you guys might as well unblock all other years including this article. Because it's not like anybody going to vandalize this article since the year is over.--24.13.169.19 (talk) 23:45, 14 January 2014 (UTC) P.S just giving you advice.

Exoplanets

According to the listing for this year, 20th October, 2009, saw the discovery of 32 exoplanets.

According to the article about the discovery of exoplanets, 19th October, 2009 saw the discovery of thirty such planets?

Can we have this cleaned up, please?

Thanks Cuddy2977 (talk) 11:21, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

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US Presidential inauguration

We've the US presidential inaugurations mentioned in all the Year articles up to 2001. Why are we preventing them here? GoodDay (talk) 02:50, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

See Wikipedia talk:Recent years#US inaugurations for a centralized discussion. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 03:08, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

2009 Boko Haram uprising

An anon removed it from July without discussion, but I'm not really sure it should be here. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 10:36, 14 January 2017 (UTC) @Jim1138: — Arthur Rubin (talk) 10:39, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

@Arthur Rubin: Gone. Not one to quibble. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 20:10, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

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Eclipses

See WT:YEARS#Eclipses for a matter relevant to this page. Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:09, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Ed McMahon

Perhaps his death should be added. The last discussion was in 2009 (in /Archive 5), but WP:RY was considered to be in effect then. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:58, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

His name was added earlier, but there was any consensus to add him. Matt Campbell (talk) 23:14, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

I made a mistake from before. I mean't to say that there wasn't any consensus to add him. My mistake. Matt Campbell (talk) 04:04, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Obviously belated, but firm oppose - 2021 in the United States is appropriate in his case. TheScrubby (talk) 11:36, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Collage thoughts

Please let me know if anyone has any disagreements on the images included in the collage, and I will put it up for vote. Thanks The ganymedian (talk) 22:48, 8 October 2022 (UTC)