Talk:2007 NCAA Division I FBS football rankings

Preseason polls

I see some preseason polls have already been added to this article. That's great, but as these publications release updated polls, I say we specify the date it was released (or at least the month) in the header row. Kinda like we did "Original" and "Revised" in last year's article.--NMajdan•talk 14:44, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Yep. We also need to set a standard of what polls should be included or not included. There are dozens of organizations that release their own polls, and we can't include every one. We need to decide which are notable enough for inclusion. This probably shouldn't be discussed on this talk page, however, since it affets every football rankings article by year. Probably best to bring this up at the Wikiproject talk page. VegaDark 20:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Case in point; the Rivals rankings were from January when you guys talked about this. They're counting down their top 50 right now and there are differences; AU at #12 not #14. Guess we'll have to wait for them to finish though, since they're going in reverse order (counting up I guess you could say). AUTiger » talk 19:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

I think last season we decided to include anything that was complete and kept up to date (with references). We talked about splitting the page since it's so large into the more "traditional" polls (AP, Coaches, etc) and "Other" Polls (terms were never decided on) and then other polls like the mgoblogpoll would be on the other page. I'm still fine with that. Unless we expand this page beyond a few more polls when it will nearly be required to split the page. MECU≈talk 17:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I like having all the polls on one page. We need to keep the number of polls down. We should just keep the major ones on here, which I think we do now. If we move anything to another page, my vote would be the preseason polls (to something like 2007 NCAA Division I FBS football preseason rankings). I hate splitting up similar content. As far as preseason polls that come out in January and again in July/August, I think we could add both of those to the preseason list just like we did the 2006 rankings that were pre- and post-Bomar.↔NMajdan•talk 18:08, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I am a fan of the splitting idea. Some of these are certainly more noteworthy than others. I think the difficulty would come in terms of those value judgments. However, I think that the BCS, should be on here, since that determines so much, and therefore the polls it uses and used to use (so AP, coaches, and Harris). Everything else could be split off. Also, shouldn't the preseason polls be at the top of the page if they stay?Polkapolkapoker 19:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

If (when) second-tier polls get split into another article, the Master Coach Survey] would be a good addition to those. It's relatively new, but the voters there are a very prominent and knowledgeable group. AUTiger » talk 20:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure that there is a distinction between the "Coaches Poll" and the "USA Today Poll." This used to be called the "ESPN/USA Today Coaches Poll" until ESPN recently backed out, but as far as I know, the "USA Today Poll" and the "Coaches Poll" are one and the same. ESPN.com currently lists only two menus, one for the AP poll, and one for the USA Today poll. This needs to be clarified.

BareAss 18:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

FYI

Rivals has updated their preseason poll. So it would probably be a good idea to either add it or replace the current one. http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=1144&CID=681081 . I'd do it, but I don't have time right now.↔NMajdan•talk 13:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Done. Anyone know the hex color code for the gray lines between the cells? If you do, you can put it in where it says "gray" at the top at "style="border-bottom:1px solid gray;"" or post it here. It looks okay as is, and most won't know it's there, but it'd be nice to fix. MECU≈talk 17:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

The grid color is #AAA but it appears to be identical to gray as well.↔NMajdan•talk 18:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

AP Poll is out

Just to let whoever edits this know...http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2980349

I'm not the regular guy, but I added it. Do we do 1st place votes? It might help get nuances when the top stays static... --Bobak 23:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes we do. See last year's rankings for examples. MECU≈talk 16:58, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

BlogPoll is out

I don't have the time to update the article right now, but if somebody else wants to get it done, you can view the preseason poll here.↔NMajdan•talk 16:18, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

USA Today/Gallup Fan Poll

So, has anybody been able to find this poll on USA Today's website? I could not. I'm beginning to believe that they are not doing it this year. If nobody objects, I'm going to remove it from the article.↔NMajdan•talk 19:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Spent a few minutes searching and couldn't find it either. I vote to drop it. -Billma 01:31, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I searched for it a few days ago and couldn't find it. I agree. —Disavian (^talk/_contribs) 02:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I sent them an e-mail a few days ago asking if they were going to do it. No response. I say nuke it. We can always add it back if we discover it later. MECU≈talk 12:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Done.↔NMajdan•talk 13:24, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Harris Poll Week 7

The article currently shows that, in Week 7 on the Harris Poll, LSU got 113 first-place votes and California got 0, out of 114 (the number 0 is shown for Cal, even though 0 is not normally shown for teams failing to receive any first-place votes). Is that correct? --Latish redone (formerly All in) 03:50, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

You're right, dunno why the editor added (0) for Cal that week. I fixed it. As for the missing 1st place vote, maybe someone forgot to vote that week? - Billma 11:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

New year?

Does anyone want to get 2008 NCAA Division I FBS football rankings started? This article (2007) was created on Jan. 16 last year. Sports Illustrated/Stewart Mandel has their way-too-early preseason rankings up now. AUTiger » talk 06:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

• Done. VegaDark (talk) 07:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! You rock! AUTiger » talk 07:28, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Push to Featured List

I'm trying to get this ready to submit to Featured List. The BlogPoll needs to be finished. Again, the CBSSportsLine poll is incomplete. We could add the last week and get some data off the "last week" for the second to last week, but then we would be missing about 1.5 weeks of data. Further, it's impossible to verify that this information is accurate, since they don't provide historical information. If I remember correctly, it was added like this and then later removed off the 2005 and 2006 rankings pages for these reasons. At the least, it's not on those pages. So, I'd like just to remove the section and even remove it from the 2008 page to help prevent a mistake like this in the future. Lastly, I did the 2007 BCS Fan Poll in my userspace, but for conflict of interest reasons, I won't move it/copy it to this page. But if someone else would like to move/copy it here, that would be great. I would be willing to do it myself if I had a few others suggest it would be acceptable. I don't care about having my name on the edit. Other than the few issues above, I think the list is ready. Comparing to last year, it's fairly identical in terms of quality, just needs the little data added. MECU≈talk 18:19, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I would just remove the BlogPoll if it can't be sourced, as per your suggestion. I see no COI in you making the edit yourself, but I'll go ahead and move it if you have any doubt at all. VegaDark (talk) 21:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

It's not the BlogPoll that's the problem. I think it can be sourced and finished and I'll work on it here soon. It's the CBS Sportsline that's the problem. I'll leave it for now until there is more support for removal. The COI is that I'm the website owner of BCS Fan Poll. MECU≈talk 12:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I just checked the website and MgoBlog/BlogPoll doesn't have the poll information available. I emailed the website and asked if they were planning on restoring it or what. MECU≈talk 12:51, 25 March 2008 (UTC)