Talk:2004 Transnistrian census

Source of Transnistrian census

Please let me know your source about the transnistrian census about the procentage that you have for: Bulgarians, poles, gagauz, jews, belarusians, germans.The quated sourceinthe "2004 Census in Transnistria" article http://www.olvia.idknet.com/ol37-09-05.htm http://pridnestrovie.net/2004census.html are releasing data only for moldavians, ukranians and russians. Thank you(Colinspancev (talk) 16:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC))

Delay of census results

Mauco, you wrote that preliminary data were released after 40 days. Please let me know the refference.

[1] Several articles. Also some on AZI, if I recall, but their archiving function sucks. - Mauco 20:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The lack of transparence regarding data (delay and lack of district-level info) is making me worry about possible falsification. In Romania, we are used with other standards of transparency. One of secrets of the census is the number of self-declared Romanians, while the percentage of "Other nationalities" increased. As jews emigrated in big number, how can be explained the "others" percentage increase?--MariusM 20:24, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

If anyone else (besides you) worry about fraud, let us know the source and citation. No one else has mentioned it. This is in stark contrast to Moldova's census. There, fraud allegations have been rife. They have released a lot less data than TransnistriaTransnistria's census data, 2004 (publicly released version). If you compare how the two sides handled their census, and the level of detail which they released, you will see that Transnistria is a lot closer to Romanian standards than Moldova is. - Mauco 20:30, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Contrary, census data from Moldova are more detailed, and they show also district-level details. Look here [2]. The problem with Moldovan census was the same as with Transnistrian census - people were discouraged to report themselves as Romanians. However, Republic of Moldova released some data about people who claim being Romanians (2,1%) and people who claim speaking Romanian as first language (16.5%). In Transnistria, those numbers are top secret. I believe transparency is an indicator of democracy--MariusM 20:47, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Are you even aware of the huge controversy and the fraud accusations surrounding the Moldovan census? Anyway, that is not the focus of this particular article. Just thought that I should mention it. In contrast, the same level of accusations has not been brought to bear upon Transnistria's results. There are no reasons to believe that they are incorrect. - Mauco 21:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

With the exception of the problem regarding the number of Romanians/Romanian language speakers, I am not aware of any controversy about Moldovan census. In Transnistria they don't even mention an official number of Romanians. Why? Delays, lack of details (do you agree that Moldovan census results are more detailed than Transnistrian?), secrecy about Romanians, all those rise suspicions (for me, not for people like you, who always "assume good faith", as Wiki guidelines).--MariusM 22:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Too bad (for you) that you are "not aware of any controversy about Moldovan census". This confirms what I suspected. Anyway, the Moldovan census is a different article. It is not the focus of this particular article. - Mauco 02:21, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism reverted

Using the 2004 census figures given as a source in the article, I have corrected the vandalism that showed Moldovans at 90% and Russians and Ukrainians at 0.5%. The other figures must be suspect given the lack of sources. Vauxhall1964 (talk) 21:56, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

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