Talk:1st Iowa Infantry Regiment/GA1

Latest comment: 9 months ago by Pickersgill-Cunliffe in topic GA Review

GA Review edit

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Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 16:30, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

I'll take a look at this shortly. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 16:30, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Prelim edit

  • No duplicated links
  • No edit wars
  • Image is correctly licensed
  • Earwig reports copyvio unlikely

Lede and infobox edit

  • "and was officially mustered" doesn't currently make grammatical sense. Suggest starting "the regiment was officially..." as a new sentence
    • Have changed this around a bit
  • Link Boonville, Missouri
    • done
  • Link companies
    • done
  • Add ACW to infobox as a treelist heading, and Battle of Dug Springs
    • done
  • "May 14, 1861, to August 20 or 23, 1861" > "May 14 – August 20/23 1861"?
    • Done
  • It should be role=Infantry and branch=Union Army
    • Done
  • Could could also add size=c.780 and notable_commanders = William H. Merritt
    • have linked Merritt, and was finally able to trace a claim of a strength of 959 total enrollment that had been in the article earlier to an obscure 1908 government report, and have added that

Service edit

  • I think the two sentences beginning "The American Civil War began on April 12, 1861..." are a little too detailed and off topic for the regiment. It would be appropriate to move much more quickly into the call for volunteers and forming of the regiment
    • On the contrary, I think it's a bit useful as context for why these Iowa and Missouri and Arkansas farm boys decided all of a sudden to start shooting at each other. See, for instance, the background that wound up getting hashed out at the FAC for 8th Missouri Infantry Regiment (Confederate).
  • It would be useful to mention somewhere in the formation section that the regiment being raised is an infantry regiment
    • Added
  • Link companies
    • Done
  • Link militia
    • Done
  • " after the men had"
    • Oops, fixed
  • Do we have any descriptions of the uniforms?
    • Have added a little bit on this; it was an absolute mess of different colors and styles
  • "On June 13," try not to begin paragraphs with dates
    • Rephrased
  • Give Lyon his rank
    • done
  • "where it guarded the Hannibal and St. Joseph Railroad." from what?
    • Clarified
  • "Lyon's advance from Boonville" a word or two on what the plan was?
    • Added a sentence each in a couple different place to explain this
  • Give Sturgis his rank
    • Done
  • Give Sigel his rank
    • Done
  • "bits and pieces over the next several days"
    • Done
  • Give Sweeny his rank
    • Done, although this took more digging to find than it was probably worth
  • Give Price and McCulloch their ranks
    • Added; it's surprisingly hard to track down good explicit page number references to ranks; thankfully both Price and McCulloch appear in the orbat at the end of Brooksher
  • I think it could be made clearer if/when the regiment decides/is made to fight instead of stay in Springfield
    • As to when, I had to follow down some rabbit holes in Piston & Hatcher's footnotes, but was able to track down a date in a book published in 1907 by a veteran of the regiment. The sources don't give much info as to decides/is made to fight, as it appears to have been moot; it's not like the regiment actually attempted to back out on the battle.
  • Give Dietzler his rank
    • Done
  • "While the 1st Missouri Infantry Regiment, an artillery unit," this reads as if the 1st Missouri is an artillery unit
    • Rephrased
  • What part of the battle is the image caption actually referring to?
    • Had to track down the original magazine article it was published in, but have provided some more detail here

References edit

  • References look good. AGF for print sources.
  • Dyer and Ingersoll could do with OCLC numbers
    • Added for both, although it took a bit of guesswork as to which OCLC # is the best one, as both of the works have gone through scads of editions

@Hog Farm: Hi, that's all I have for now. Will await your responses. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 15:12, 27 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe: - replies above. I had to dig into some rabbit holes to track down some stuff, but I believe have replied to everything. Two sources added: an official government document from 1908, and a veteran's memoir from 1907. The memoir is only used to support a date; it probably has more detail but I don't think that relying heavily on one veterans' recollections from 46 years after the fact is really due weight. Hog Farm Talk 02:43, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Hog Farm: Happy with your changes. A few minor quibbles:
  • "The total number of men enrollment in the regiment was 959." needs adjustment
  • Colonel and major are duplicated links, although they're in different sections so you can keep them if you like
Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 13:24, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Pickersgill-Cunliffe: - I have addressed both of these issues. Hog Farm Talk 02:40, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Hog Farm: Passing this article as satisfying the GA criteria. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 12:35, 3 August 2023 (UTC)Reply