Talk:1997 Atlantic hurricane season

August-free seasons

According to the hurricane data archives at Unisys (Unisys Atlantic Best Track Archive), the following are the years which featured no active tropical cyclones (of tropical storm strength or greater) in the Atlantic basin during the entire month of August:

• 1997
• 1961
• 1941
• 1929
• 1925
• 1922
• 1921
• 1920
• 1919
• 1914
• 1912
• 1907
• 1905
• 1904
• 1902
• 1884
• 1876
• 1868
• 1857

Obviously, some of the older entries to this list might not be correct, as technological limitations did not allow meteorologists to see all of the storms back then, as we are able to do today with modern weather satellite technology.

Posted by: The Great Zo 1:34 PM EDT - July 7, 2005

Images for each storm

Here is an image of each storm of the season.

• Subtropical Storm
• Tropical Storm Ana
• Hurricane Bill
• Tropical Storm Claudette
• Hurricane Erika
• Tropical Storm Fabian
• Tropical Storm Grace

Nice and easy. If you have any better images, feel free to replace. Hurricanehink 02:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Todo

A sysopsis section (maybe), references, impact pics (if there are any). Jdorje 20:27, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, looks like there's more work to be done in the form of a general copyedit. Many storm sections should be separated into two paragraphs, general wikification, etc. Jdorje 20:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Also, is the timeline needed? Majority of the information in the timeline is in the article through prose... --Hurricanehink (talk) 21:19, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Yea, I think the timeline should go. íslenska hurikein #12 _(samtal) 21:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I upgraded it to C, since most sections are pretty full. What's missing is a full section for Fabian and Grace, as well as inline citations. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:12, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Another Subtropical Storm

Look at this guys A weather report stated that a possible subtropical storm formed in October of 1997. Should I mention it in the seasonal article?. Storm05 16:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

It does look like a storm, but because the NHC did not upgrade it, I would say no. Hurricanehink 16:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

That's not a weather report. That's one guy's blog/email. It cannot be used as a source. — jdorje (talk) 18:03, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

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--JeffGBot (talk) 04:35, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Merging timeline?

Similar to the 1977 Pacific hurricane season, there weren't many simulataneous storms this season. I propose the timeline be merged, taking any of the content there and putting it in the season article that isn't already there. It's highly redundant now. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:45, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Yellow Evan (talk • contribs • count) 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC) Comments:

• " The May 1997 forecast was that eleven storms would form and that seven would reach hurricane status. In addition, it was predicted that three of the seven hurricanes would intensify into a major hurricane (Category 3+ on the Saffir–Simpson Hurricane Scale).[2] "change the was to stated
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• Wikilink to Danny's article in season activity section. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "A frontal low pressure system off the coast of South Carolina developed into Tropical Depression One on June 30" exact time?. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• You use the word "on X" to much IMO, try to change some to "by X", "at X", ect. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}
  • I am not exactly sure what you mean. Are you referring to on September 1, by September 1, at September 1?--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "After developing, the cyclone moved northeastward in advance of an approaching cold front. It quickly intensified into Tropical Storm Bill, and briefly threatened to pass near Bermuda."wikilink cold front. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "As a result, a tropical storm warning was issued, although it was quickly dropped; there was no impact on the island from Bill." Wikilink tropical storm warnings. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "On July 11, the same frontal system that influenced the track of Hurricane Bill also spawned a non-tropical low off the southeast United States." wikilink first usage of technical term in each section. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "The depression quickly intensified into Tropical Storm Claudette, based on measurements from a reconnaissance aircraft mission. " wikilink to Hurricane Hunters since it is the first usage in the section. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "Claudette developed banding features despite the presence of wind shear, and on July 14 reached peak winds of 45 mph (72 km/h)." wikilink to wind shear and rainband respectively. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "Shortly thereafter, it was merged by the cold front, although the remnants persisted until July 23 when they were near the Azores.[18]" the "it was merged by the cold front" seems weird, I suggest changing it to "It merged with a cold front".
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• Cut down on Danny's section due to main article. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}
  • Better?--12george1 (talk) 22:38, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "Tropical Depression Five formed from a tropical wave that emerged from the west coast of Africa on July 11" wikilink tropical wave since it is the first ussage in this section. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "Early on July 19, the depression degenerated into a tropical wave. " delink tropical wave IMO since it should be wikilinked earlier in the section. YE ^Pacific

^Hurricane 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

• • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "Recon observations before the storm fell apart suggested that it may have briefly reached tropical storm strength." link to Hurriane Hunters. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "A tropical wave developed into Tropical Depression Six while it was centered about 1150 mi (1850 km) east of the southernmost Lesser Antilles. Later that day, the depression intensified enough to be upgraded to Tropical Storm Erika" link to tropical wave since it is the first usage in section. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "Fabian formed from a tropical wave that emerged into the Atlantic from the coast of Dakar, Senegal on September 22" pear above. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "Strong upper level wind shear did not allow Fabian to strengthen past minimal tropical storm status." wikilink to wind shear] since !) it is a technical term 2) first usage in the section. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "Strong upper level wind shear did not allow Fabian to strengthen past minimal tropical storm status."no need for the "strong upper level" part IMO. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "An extratropical low formed just north of Hispaniola on October 14, and on the following day" link to extratropical low please. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
• "By October 17, Grace degenerated back into an extratropical low, and eventually merged with a nearby trough."

Don't wikilink extratpical low, but link trough. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane}

• • Done--12george1 (talk) 22:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I have 23 issues, but all should be somewhat easy, and thus, I'm leaving it on hold for a week

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Classification of pre-2002 subtropical storms

While looking at the tropical cyclone report for the 1997 subtropical storm, I found that the NHC refers to it as "Unnumbered Subtropical Storm" rather than "Unnamed Subtropical Storm". For the 2000 subtropical storm, it is simply refered to as "Subtropical Storm". What should we call these two systems? I suggest titling them as unnumbered subtropical storms as they could not have been named in the first place and the 1997 storm is known as "Unnumbered Subtropical Storm" in its TCR (you have to actually read it). Cooper 14:06, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

What is this listed in HURDAT as? Because by my logic yesterday, Subtropical Storm One would be most appropriate. To be fair, this particular case is somewhat of my fault, since I passed this at GAN. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 14:46, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Its okay YE, I'm not really sure what we do with these ones either. Should we number them? I'll take a look at HURDAT. Cooper 21:52, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

UPDATE: I found the HURDAT database for 1997, and it refers to this storm as "Unnamed". In addition, it refers to all other unnamed/unnumbered storms as "Unnamed". However, the NHC refers to subtropical storms like this as "Unnumbered". Do you think we should go with HURDAT or with the naming procedures, as subtropical storms were numbered before 2002? Let me know @Yellow Evan: Cooper 22:01, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Unnamed would be better imo since they have been numbered since and for the record HURDAT is produced by the NHC.Jason Rees (talk) 22:50, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

I'd rather go "Subtropical Storm One" just to be consistent with older articles in which unnamed TS's were added post-season or in re-analysis. YE ^{Pacific Hurricane} 18:01, 17 May 2018 (UTC)