Talk:1995 Fox River Grove bus–train collision
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"Level" Crossing?
editIn the USA, these railroad crossings are commonly called grade crossings. The term "level crossing" is British English. Perhaps the article needs "re-title" put on the "to-do" list? 70.105.221.211 (talk) 19:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually the bus–train collision aspect is more important than the fact that it happened at a crossing (of whatever description). In fact, where else would a bus–train collision occur? Dhaluza (talk) 23:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
To do
editAfter a couple years of thought, I think this article needs some extensive rewriting, and citations. The todo list is below. —Rob (talk) 21:33, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
I remember this case, and I remember thinking at the time that there's something wrong with the training and testing of school bus drivers in Illinois. When I trained as a school bus driver in New York and took the road test, this kind of issue was raised and I was trained to consider every railroad crossing a potential death trap. As it happens I never worked as a bus driver though. Andygx (talk) 18:36, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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Unsourced statements
editI removed content that had a cn tag and removed the maintenance tag. At best this created a need to reassess the article to c-class. Otr500 (talk) 13:39, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
Charges?
editWere there charges against the driver considered? PaulinSaudi (talk) 13:33, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Cause: add "bad traffic light design"?
editI noticed that the causes in the information table are listed as "Bus driver misjudgement" and " Traffic signal timing". However, I would argue that the design of the road was an accident waiting to happen, and that we should address that in the cause section of the table as well. The bus was 40 ft long, and it was only given 30 ft of room to stop for the traffic lights. I must add that if there are rules for what can and cannot be added to the information table, I do not know them. So for instance, if we have to strictly follow what the police or court concluded, I don't know about that rule. But if we have to use our own judgement to list the causes of this incident, I believe we should add something about the design of the crossroads.ng Elle Is Me (talk) 14:52, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- I do not believe that this is the full NTSB report but I might not remember correctly but the report said the crossing was dangerous. 38.65.63.35 (talk) 04:05, 6 May 2023 (UTC)