Talk:1995 Atlantic hurricane season


Images of each storm edit

Another year, another set of images.

Will finish later. Too many to do. Hurricanehink 01:34, 5 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Added Pablo. Hurricanehink 00:46, 8 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Added Noel. And now I have to go. Ugh, if I could only finish now... Hurricanehink 15:38, 8 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Almost done. Hurricanehink 17:27, 10 January 2006 (UTC)Reply
Done... finally. Hurricanehink 22:03, 14 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Todo edit

Content is fairly complete, but the article is lacking sources, wording is poor in some places, and the pictures haven't been added yet. Jdorje 08:30, 11 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Accumulated Cyclone Energy (ACE) edit

ACE (104kt²) ([[{{{ref}}}|Source]]) — Storm:
1 53.9 Luis 10 6.53 Chantal
2 29.3 Felix 11 3.42 Karen
3 22.7 Iris 12 3.16 Barry
4 22.5 Humberto 13 3.08 Allison
5 21.5 Marilyn 14 2.45 Pablo
6 16.2 Roxanne 15 2.12 Sebastien
7 11.1 Opal 16 1.39 Gabrielle
8 8.73 Tanya 17 0.612 Jerry
9 7.32 Erin 18 0.282 Dean
Total: 216

Tanya edit

The tanya section makes little sense. There's argument about whether the storm was a Category 1 or a Category 3 hurricane when it hit "the island". What island? The only land affected was the Azores islands, while Tanya was extratropical and had gale-force winds. — jdorje (talk) 06:32, 26 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

The Category 3 statement has no sources. The unofficial reading part was a good idea, but I think it should be removed. Hurricanehink 13:44, 26 February 2006 (UTC)Reply

Small infoboxes for page edit

1995 is the 3rd most active season in history with many notable storms.Dont you think this page deserves a set of small infoboxes?HurricaneCraze32 23:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

Do you mean actual infoboxes or small infoboxes used in 2004 and 2005? Hurricanehink 19:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
The Small ones and thats 2002-2005.HurricaneCraze32 20:41, 16 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
OK. That's not a bad idea. Hurricanehink 01:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
It does well-when i get home from my dad's company i can start.If everyone agrees that is..I made Allison as an example.HurricaneCraze32 01:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
I thought we agreed we were going to use a table format for season statistics, rather than the infobox format? — jdorje (talk) 06:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
The results of the discussion was rather ambiguous, so it could go either way. I personally like the table format, so when you finish the templates, someone could tablize everything. Hurricanehink 00:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC)Reply
Article links-i have an easier way-to save space-link the titles.HurricaneCraze32 23:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Unneeded table edit

I removed the following table from the article. I'm not sure of its purpose, so I'll just put it here for now. It's merely a table of the most active seasons, which can easily be said in words. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:07, 26 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Tropical
storms
Year Hurricanes
Total Major
28 2005 15 7
21 1933 10 5
19 1995 11 5
1887 11 2
18 1969 12 5

Possible storm edit

According to Jack Beven's summaries there was a possible (sub)tropical storm with approximate peak winds of 45kts located to the S of Nova Scotia and E of Virginia - visible in this GIBBS image.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:46, 6 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Cool, but can we ut in it? →Cyclone1 23:56, 21 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Ut in it? Do you mean put IT in?Mitchazenia(8600+edits) 00:17, 22 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
If you can source it, sure, you could put it in an other storms section. Hurricanehink (talk) 01:21, 22 December 2006 (UTC)Reply
Give me some time and I'll get Jack Beven's info out...--Nilfanion (talk) 11:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

What's next? edit

Here's a good site regarding why the season was so active. Some of that should probably be added. Looking at the article as a whole, we might be able to do a redo of 2005. Yes, I am talking about having articles for all storms and having a season summary, not a list of storms. I don't know, maybe I'm foolish and shouldn't even think of it, but it could potentially work. Thoughts? Hurricanehink (talk) 22:00, 6 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Right now, this is the season I am most heavily targetting for new articles. I don't think the 2005 format should be used; it should be modelled after 2003 and 2004 as they were not a whole lot less active; 2005 was "off the charts" and deserves special treatment. CrazyC83 02:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

New style season format edit

I think the new style for the season format should be used for 1995. Clarifying what I am saying, I would like to but the layout for the 1995 season as the summary for June-November, then create a separate article, List of storms in the 1995 Atlantic hurricane season. View the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season page and List of storms in the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season for reference. I would like to see this because the format it is intended for extremely active seasons, and 1995 just so happens to be one, although people have recently gone crazy and made this for 1994 and most years in the 2000's, even 2006 and 2009. So because of the extreme amounts of tropical activity, I believe that the 1995 Atlantic hurricane season deserves this special format. I have also noticed that most of the seasons with this formation end up as a Featured Article, while other seasons don't, such as 2000, 2004, and 2008, although I also plan on pushing the format for those three seasons.--12george1 (talk) 15:40, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Good luck with that. Should we do the same with the PHS's? YE Tropical Cyclone 17:04, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Currently I am working on it for 1995 in a sandbox, but I am only up to Chantal at the moment.--12george1 (talk) 17:11, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Sounds good. I personally feel there is a major redundancy issue when having the new style, the list article, as well as a timeline, not to mention the numerous articles. Basically it is a content fork just so there can be the old style and new style. That said, I'll take my rant elsewhere, but I agree with 1995 getting the new format. Be sure to emphasize monthly records and notable events within the season (for example, the August paragraph should begin by mentioning there being four named storms at the same time, as well as there being three hurricanes at the same time). Hurricanehink (talk) 19:22, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply
Also, anyone is welcome to help me piece this thing together, click here and start editing if you desire. Believe me, this is a lot of work and it should probably qualify at least as a c-class article when the new format is posted on the main 1995 AHS article. If is lower than c-class, there would be no reason to do this since it would only degrade the article quality.--12george1 (talk) 04:13, 14 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

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GA Review edit

This review is transcluded from Talk:1995 Atlantic hurricane season/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contribs) 20:23, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hi George, I'll be checking this out...

  • "Hurricanes Luis and Marilyn caused catastrophic damages in the Leeward Islands and Virgin Islands, while also the first and most destructive hurricane to affect those regions since Hurricane Hugo, respectively." - Not a fan of plural "damages". I'm not sure how to interpret the second half of that sentence--reword to clarify?
  • I hope you're ok with my revisions. As for the second part, Luis was the first hurricane to impact those regions since Hugo, while Marilyn was the most devastating there since Hugo.--12george1 (talk) 04:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "Opal, the strongest and most intense storm of the season, devastation along portions of the Gulf Coast of the United States." - Words are missing
  • "Felix generated strong waves, causing heavy beach erosion in the northeast United States" - Northeast US is a geographic location, capitalize it.
  • "Iris that caused flooding in the Lesser Antilles." - This is not a complete sentence.
  • Eye see your point. An oversight on my part :P --12george1 (talk) 04:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "Collectively, the tropical cyclones of the season caused over $12.85 billion (1995 USD) in damage and at least 182 deaths." - Fairly minor, but the infobox lists $12.846 billion (exact) and the sentence reads over $12.85 billion. Which one?
  • Can we just say "about $12.85 billion" and call it a day?--12george1 (talk) 04:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "At the time, only one Atlantic hurricane season, 1933 surpassed the season's total storms making the season the second most active in recorded history tying with 1887" --> "At season's end, 1995 ranked as the second most active in recorded history, tying 1887" or something like that.
  • "A normal season, as defined by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), has 12.1 named storms, of these 6.4 reach hurricane strength, and 2.7 major hurricanes, which are Category 3 or higher on the Saffir–Simpson hurricane wind scale." - Can we get some semicolons in here or split into two sentences?
  • "In December 1994, CSU predicted that only 12 named storms would form and 8 of those would become hurricanes; 3 major hurricanes were projected." - Why only 12? That's average (or above average by CSU definition).
  • I said "only" because it was way under the actual number of named storms--12george1 (talk) 04:31, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "Additionally, the western areas of the Sahara Desert were predicted to have the fourth or fifth rainiest season since 1970." - Explain why that would help TC activity otherwise it sounds disconnected.
  • "The forecast by the WRC in early 1995 was 10 named storms and 6 hurricanes, though there was no prediction on the number of major hurricanes" - Change "though there was" to "with".
  • "It was a well-above average season in which 21 tropical depressions formed, nineteen of which attained tropical storm status, and 11 of these attained hurricane status." - Nineteen --> 19
  • "Although September is the climatological peak of hurricane season, it was much less active with August, with four tropical cyclones developing in that month, and Marilyn, Noel, and Opal eventually strengthened into a hurricane." - "with August" --> "than August" and split this sentence into two. Fix the subject-verb agreement (Marilyn, Noel, Opal strengthened into hurricanes).
  • "The last storm of the season, Hurricane Tanya, developed later in October, and eventually became extratropical on November 1." - Remove the comma after October.

Get back to me when you've addressed the above comments and I'll finish reviewing the article. Don't want to drown you in corrections at one time. :) TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 20:23, 1 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

  • "The season officially began on June 1, 1995, and ended on November 30, 1995, dates which conventionally delimit the period of each year when most tropical cyclones develop in the Atlantic basin." - Forgot this. No need for the years.
  • "The depression initially moved northwestward, before recurving to the north." - No comma.
  • "After briefly emerging over Apalachee Bay, Allison struck near St. Marks with winds of 65 mph (100 m/h)." - k (or lack thereof). :)
  • I'm inventing my own unit of measure :P --12george1 (talk) 03:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "While moving rapidly northeastward, Barry made landfall in Hart Island, Nova Scotia, late on July 9 with winds of 50 mph (85 km/h)." - You already told us it held 50 mph until landfall earlier.
  • "Initially, Chantal threatened the Bahamas, and the Government of the Bahamas issued a tropical storm watches and warnings, which were in effect for the southeast and central islands as well as the Turks and Caicos Islands." - A tropical storm watches and warnings?
  • "After the cyclone turned northward, it threatened Bermuda, which prompted a tropical storm watch for the island on July 16, which was canceled on July 18 as the storm passed well northwest of the island." - Break this up.
  • "As the depression curved west-northwestward, it began to strengthen, and was upgraded to Tropical Storm Dean while located only 70 mi (110 km) from the Texas coastline on July 30." - Remove the second comma. Any reason stated why it began intensifying?
  • It sounds like Dean was initially too poorly organized to take advantage of the otherwise favorable conditions. I made a note of it in the previous sentence.--12george1 (talk) 03:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "The storm continued to slowly weaken as it moved northwestward, and dissipating on August 2 near the Texas–Oklahoma border." - Remove the "and"
  • "Dean dropped mostly light rainfall across Texas, though some areas received more than 17 in (430 mm)." - "Mostly light" and "17 in" are two very different ends of the scale. Looking at the rainfall map, Dean dropped widespread amounts of 6-8". That's not light at all.
  • "Precipitation from the storm caused moderate localized damage." - How? Flooding? Landslides?
  • "The resulting floods caused the evacuation of 20 families in Chambers County[23] and flooded 38 houses in the southeastern portions of Texas." - Adding a reference in the middle of a sentence is generally discouraged. Just put it at the end.
  • I decided to re-word the sentence because there three variations of the word "flood" in that sentence and the one before it because of your previous comment--12george1 (talk) 03:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "Outside of Oklahoma and Texas, the remnants of the storm dropped rainfall in 10 other states, though minimal damage occurred." - "10 other states" is very ambiguous, can we get a geographic area? Northeast US? Midwest?
  • "A tropical wave exited the west coast of Africa on July 22 and headed toward the Leeward Islands, where the system nearly developed into a tropical cyclone." - Why did it stop?
  • After re-reading the TCR, it appears to have been delayed, rather than stopped. Vertical wind shear delayed the development of a circulation until the wave came near the Bahamas--12george1 (talk) 03:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "Despite affects from wind shear, Erin continued to strengthen as it moved northwestward, and was upgraded to a hurricane later on July 31." - "affects" to "effects," remove the second comma.
  • "Although many islands in the Bahamas experience high winds and heavy rainfall, damage associated with Erin was fairly minor." - "experience" to "experienced".
  • Hopefully it's not a frequent experience :P --12george1 (talk) 03:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "In addition, the storm left over one million people without electricity. Several tornadoes were spawned in the state, which also caused some damage. Over 100 houses were also damaged in Alabama." - Chill with the "in addition," "which/were also"s.
No. "Several tornadoes were spawned in the state, which causing damage." TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 19:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Fixed--12george1 (talk) 02:31, 10 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "Similar damage also occurred in Mississippi, although to a lesser degree." - Contradictory sentence. How about "similar impacts" instead of "similar damage"?
  • "Elsewhere, some areas affected by Erin experienced heavy rainfall." - What areas?
  • "The southern part of the tropical wave that spawned Tropical Storm Erin continued into the Caribbean Sea in late July." - Erin was a hurricane.
  • "As it tracked west-northwestward, preparations were occurring as Felix also posed a threat to the United States." --> "Continuing on its northwest trek, the cyclone also temporarily prompted preparations along the East Coast of the United States"
  • "Felix briefly threatened Bermuda again, but weakened to a tropical storm and turned back to the northeast on August 20." - Switch the order here (say it turned first and then weakened)
  • "...while 20 to 30 houses in North Carolina experience minor damage from rough seas." - "experience" to "experienced"

Will finish reviewing the article tomorrow. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 04:55, 2 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

  • "Gabrielle dropped heavy rainfall in Mexico, where some areas possibly experienced more than 24 in (610 mm) of precipitation" - What makes you think this?
  • The TCR cites a newspaper (but doesn't give the name of it) saying there was more than 24 inches--12george1 (talk) 04:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "A tropical wave formed over Africa in mid August 1995. By August 19, it crossed over Dakar, Senegal, shortly before entering into the Atlantic Ocean." - Any reason to be so specific with when the wave formed and where it tracked here? You didn't do that with other storms.
  • "Operationally, Humberto was erroneously downgraded to a tropical storm on that same day." - What suggested it remained a hurricane?
  • "Jerry dropped heavy rainfall in Florida, especially in the southern portion of the state." - How much?
  • "Agricultural damage was also reported in southwest Florida." - Specific crops available?
  • "The depression slowly intensified as it tracked between 11 and 16 mph (18 and 26 km/h) west-northwestward under the influence of low- to mid-level flow." - 11-16 mph isnt exactly record breaking or notable. Why not just say steadily west-northwestward?
  • "Although sea surface temperatures were around 80 °F (27 °C)..." - Same general idea here. 27C isn't impressive, why so specific?
  • "You start the first three sentences with the same word (By..) in Karen's impact section.
  • "In the United States, storm surge and high tides were reported along the east coast, leading to two drowning deaths, one in North Carolina and the other in New York." - East Coast is a geographic region, capitalize it. Change the comma after "deaths" to an em dash.
  • "However, the National Hurricane Center did not declare the system as Tropical Depression Fourteen until September 11, while the system was centered 950 mi (1,530 km) southeast of Bermuda." - Operationally, right?
  • "Although the National Hurricane Center predicted that it would intensify into a tropical storm" - No need to keep spelling NHC out.
  • "The depression moved toward the northwest and encountered strong upper-level winds which removed the convection from the low-level center on September 13." - Ok...what happened next?
  • Sounds like the suspense is killing you. Spoiler alert: the depression dissipated :P --12george1 (talk) 04:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "20 in (510 mm) of rain fell at Saint-Claude, which was the highest precipitation total associated with Marilyn." - Starting a sentence with a number is a no no.
  • "Wind speeds measured on Guadeloupe were also tropical storm force." - Specific values?
  • "Shortly thereafter, the storm began weakening and upon making landfall in Pensacola Beach, Florida, about 12 hours later, winds had decreased to 115 mph (185 km/h), which is Category 3 intensity." - Break this up or reword it
  • "Later that day, the National Hurricane Center noted that, "it is impossible to locate a low level circulation on infrared imagery"." - Really not a fan of using NHC quotes in general. Why can't you just say an LLC was indiscernible?
  • You're not an NFL or NBA fan. Now you say you're not really a fan of quoting NHC. What are you a fan of? :P --12george1 (talk) 04:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • "Operationally, it was originally believed to be weaker." - Is this necessary?
  • "The storm was located to the northeast of the northern Leeward Islands" - This reads weird to me. Why not just say it moved north but then turned southwest?
  • "The names Van and Wendy were the only two names which were not used during 1995." Ok?
  • I'm gonna go with what I said in the 2012 AHS unless you object to that as well--12george1 (talk) 04:57, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • Add a note after the first damage total (in the lead) that all damage costs are in 1995 USD unless otherwise stated.
  • We don't use bold in the season effects table any longer.
  • References 7, 11 (Hurricanes - General information for Bermuda), 12, 73, 80, and 108 are dead.

I think that's most everything. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:32, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

  • Almost. Reference 46 broke during the review and needs to be replaced. There's only minor comment above that needs to be addressed as well. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk · contributions) 19:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
  • Fixed the remaining issue above and found an archive link for reference 46--12george1 (talk) 02:31, 10 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Hurricane Roxanne intensity: cat3 or cat5? edit

What's the real intensity of Hurricane Roxanne? This article says Cat3 and the article for Roxanne says Cat5. To my knowledge, the hurricane achieved cat3.

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