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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 12:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

Am reviewing for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 12:54, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  

Lead edit

  • "The highest was made by Thorburn in the second round where he compiled a maximum break of 147 points." - perhaps mention that Thorburn made the maximum against Terry Griffiths
  • "The highest was made by" - highest break
  • "he became the first player to make a maximum in a World Championship match." - this sentence should begin with a capital letter
  • "maximum in a World Championship match." - maximum break

Overview edit

  • Wikilink world snooker rankings for non-Snooker readers

Qualifying edit

  • "A two-round qualification tournament was held across three venues, at the Snooker Centre in Sheffield, Romiley Forum, Stockport and Redwood Lodge, Bristol." - on what dates were the qualifiers held on?
Started from 28 March (Guardian, 16 March 83, Sport in Brief, p.25). The latest any qualifying results were published in the Guardian was 12 April, but no definitive source yet found to say that qualifying ended on 11 April.
  • "Mario Morra was 4–9 behind to Ian Black," - the word in bold is not needed
  • "and won the frame and match on the pink with just two balls remaining." - and the match
  • "securing a whitewash over Mike Darrington" - a 10–0 whitewash

First round edit

  • "Steve Davis was the bookmaker's favourite to win the event," - bookmakers
  • "with Ray Reardon and defending champion Alex Higgins at 8/1." - only Reardon and Higgins' surnames will suffice since they have been mentioned in full earlier in the article
  • "and Higgin's only notable success had been in the 1983 Irish Professional Championship." - Higgins
  • "Higgins led Dean Reynolds, who had taken him to a deciding frame at the 1982 UK Championship," - which round?
  • " Eddie Charlton completed a 10–7 victory against Dodd after completing their first session 5–3 in front." - repetition of "completing"
  • "He won the last three frames to defeat Silvino Francisco 10–9." - three frames of his match to
  • "In their second session, Davis won three of the first four frames to win 10–4." - repetition of ""win/won"
  • "to gain a 10–8 victory." - secure
  • "Doug Mountjoy won 10–2 against Wilson, and Kirk Stevens saw off Fisher by the same margin." - defeated
  • " In an attacking match, Tony Meo defeated his childhood friend Jimmy White 10–8 having led 6–3 after the first session." - only Meo's surname will suffice

Second round edit

  • The image caption: "Cliff Thorburn (pictured in 2007) made a maximum break, the first made at the event" - repetition of "event"
  • "From there, Thorne won only one further frame as Higgins won 13–8." - repetition of "won"
  • "but Werbeniuk then won seven consecutive frames and won 13–10." - repetition of "won"
  • "Stevens compiled a break of 139 in the second frame against Perrie Mans," - it should just the surname of the player in bold that should be mentioned per MOS:SURNAME
  • "In a session of slow play saw Charlton move from 9–7 against Spencer to take their match 13–11." - the word in bold looks out of place and the subsequent words can be changed
  • "Knowles lead Reardon 9–7 and after Reardon had equalised at 11–11 and 12–12," - led
  • "He was only the second player (after Davis at the 1982 Classic), to make an official maximum." - the brackets and the comma in this sentence is not needed IMO
  • "While he was completing the break, play stopped on the tournament's second table because his friend and fellow Canadian Bill Werbeniuk wanted to watch the break unfold." - repetition of "break"
  • "and fellow Canadian Bill Werbeniuk wanted to watch" - just Werbeniuk's surname will suffice

Quarter-finals edit

  • Wikilink black ball to the relevant article
  • "Davis took a 5–3 lead over Charlton after their first session, during which Charlton compiled a break of 115 and finished the second session 11–5 ahead." - think this sentence can be reworded somewhat
Reworded. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Wikilink black ball to the relevant article
  • "In the third frame, 46 points ahead," - At 46 points ahead in the third frame,
  • Wikilink foul to the appropriate article
  • "but lost the next after going in-off in playing a shot on the pink." - while
  • "but was pegged back to 5–3 by the end of their first session." - try using alternative formal wording in place of the text in bold

Semi-finals edit

  • "as the best-of-31 frame matches over scheduled four sessions." - scheduled over
Has been corrected. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "the venue was evacuated due to a death threat to Davis that had been telephoned to the venue," - repetition of "venue"
  • "making a break of 103 in the opening frame," - which specific of the second session?
  • "Higgins replied with a break of 74 to win the following frame, after which Davis won the next five to win the match 16–5." - repetition of "won/win"
  • "Knowles was within a frame of winning at 15–13, but Thorburn won the next two to force a deciding frame." - repetition of "won"
  • "Thorburn went on to win the frame and the match." - the score can be added to the end of this sentence

Final edit

  • Wikilink rest to the relevant article
  • "Davis extended this to 9–2" - increased his advantage to
  • "Davis compiled break of 131 in the 22nd frame to leave him one frame from victory at 17–5. " - compiled a break of 131
    Has been amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • "before Davis wrapped up victory at 18–6." - trying an alternative formal phrase other than the one highlighted in bold
  • "Snooker historian Clive Everton commented of Thorburn's performance in the final that the long matches he had played in reaching the final" - repetition of "final"
  • "Snooker historian Clive Everton commented of Thorburn's performance in the final that the long matches he had played" - commented that the long matches Thorburn had played
  • "Thorburn said of the match that" - Thorburn commented on the match
  • "The £30,000 prize money brought Davis's earnings from tournaments to more than £80,000 for the season, with his expected earnings for the following year being estimated at £750,000" - repetition of "earnings"

Qualifying edit

  • Please add some text informing the reader that the bolding of players' names is to indicate they are match winners

Century breaks edit

  • "There were 18 century breaks during the championship," - can be either made or compiled between "breaks" and "during"
  • "The highest break of the event was maximum break of 147" - was a maximum
  • Thorburn does not need to be wikilinked and just his surname will suffice

References edit

  • Reference 1 "Snooker championship" is missing the page number
  • Reference 30 "The Top 10 sporting epics" is missing the publication date

Will put the review on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 18:20, 27 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • Looks like Benny has already done most of these, bar for one point on the dates for qualifying. I'll see if I can find anything. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:08, 29 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • There's a reliable source for qualifying starting on 28 March. I'm pretty sure qualifying ended on 11 April but haven't managed to get a definitive source for this from searches in newspapers.com, The Times archive, the British Newspaper Archive, and NewsBank. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Yeah, I think if it is anywhere, it'll be in a record book or a really obscure newspaper. If we can't nail down the exact dates, we could do what we did in 1982 and put "in April". Better to be inaccurate and right than precise and wrong/uncited. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:21, 30 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • We did cite to the rothmans snooker yearbook in 1985, did they produce one for 82-83? Or check Cueworld. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 13:28, 30 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • None of the books I've seen include dates for 1983 qualifying - not even Downer's Almanac. The Rothmans books only started from 1985 and they only cover the most recent season in much detail other than results. The Cue World source doesn't have dates. I haven't got the relevant issue of Snooker Scene, but they don't usually include detailed dates either, except in a sort of "dates for the diary" view - so if anyone has Snooker Scene issues from later 1982 or early 1983 it might possibly be in there. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:25, 30 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
  • Probably the best approach is to say "in March and April", to avoid issues. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:56, 30 October 2020 (UTC)Reply
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