Talk:1921–22 Cardiff City F.C. season/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 10:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -Y Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
• It contains copyright infringements - No copyvio. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). - Y Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -Y Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:34, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Links

• Only minor issues with External links Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:44, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
• No dablinks! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:44, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
• No short description? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:13, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Prose

Lede

• The 1921–22 season was the 21st season of competitive football played by Cardiff City and - Cardiff City F.C. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Done
• top tier - highest tier. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Done
• 31 players made at least one appearance for the club during the campaign - starting a sentence with a number feels weird to me. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Done
• Average attendence isn't mentioned in the lead, but lowest and highest only? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:20, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Done

Background and preseason

• on goal average - what's a goal average? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Linked
• and immediately set about making several new signings - puff. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Trimmed
• "now being equal to the best in the country" - direct quotes should be inline cited directly after. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Added
• What's an "earthen embankment"? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

A levee made of earth, only used here for supporters to stand on rather than to direct water. Kosack (talk) 06:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

• Having won promotion and reached the semifinal of the FA Cup, Cardiff were expected to adapt well to the higher tier Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Added

First Division

• The game therefore became the first top tier match in English football to be played in Wales - therefore is a bit weird to me. Just because there wasn't Welsh clubs, doesn't mean it wasn't possible for matches to have been held in Wales previously. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:48, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

I think its reasonable to assume that as the first Welsh club to reach that level, the match would consequently be the first to be held in Wales. In the 100-year history of the Football League, I don't believe an English club has ever played a home match outside the country. Kosack (talk) 07:40, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

• "the most important event in [Cardiff's] history" - who said this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:48, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Added
• Estimates at the time - Estimates by whom? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:48, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Added
• Tottenham with The Times describing victory - Who from the Times? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:48, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

During the era, The Times simply listed "our football correspondent" as the author of the articles. Kosack (talk) 07:40, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

• stepped in and became the oldest player in the club's history at 41 years old. - Is this still true? Is this just league? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:48, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, the record still stands and is for all competitions. Kosack (talk) 07:40, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

• does this section not mention the final position of the team/season results? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:48, 15 June 2019 (UTC) - Added

Cup matches

• This is good Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:59, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Player details

• Two of the players, Ernie Anderson and James Melville would never play another match for Cardiff - did these players get released? retired? etc. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:59, 18 June 2019 (UTC) - Clarified
• him out score his... - isn't it outscore. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:59, 18 June 2019 (UTC) - Fixed
• Eleven players scored at least one goal during the course of the season and one opposition player scored an own goal - did cardiff score any own goals? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:59, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
• rest is good Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:59, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

The record books I have only state Cardiff's goalscorers, so I'm unsure of that I'm afraid. Kosack (talk) 12:17, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Comments

• Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:17, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the review Lee, I'll sort out these issues asap. Kosack (talk) 06:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: Done up to the point you have reached, cheers. Kosack (talk) 07:40, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

• Kosack Sorry for the wait. Only a couple more things, and I'll pass it after you've checked. Great job. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Lee Vilenski: No worries, I've addressed the extra comments now. Kosack (talk) 12:18, 19 June 2019 (UTC)