Talk:1917 Kiev City Duma election
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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 19:55, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- ... that Ukrainian parties (electoral propaganda pictured) merely obtained a fifth of the votes in the 1917 Kiev City Duma election? Source: Дмитро Дорошенко (1954). Історія України, 1917-1923. Булава. p. 117. OCLC 15983699.
Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 02:55, 28 February 2022 (UTC).
- Article meets DYK requirements, hook is fine, assuming good faith on the book source for the hook. --benlisquareT•C•E 04:49, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- unfortunately, gotta put this one on hold until the DYK RfC on Russia/Ukrain is resolved. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 21:58, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
full list of elected members
editMikhail Maslennikov was a Kadet elected, per ru.wiki, with reference to «Киевлянин» №178 от 27 июля 1917 г.. For me I find the scan bit too blurry to make out all the names easily. -- Soman (talk) 10:40, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Below an attempt to populate the listing of elected members, per the Киевлянин reference linked above. --Soman (talk) 11:06, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- [1] is much clearer --Soman (talk) 11:43, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Number (in Киевлянин 27 Jul) | Name | List | Appears in Киевская мысль (25 Jul) |
---|---|---|---|
1 | Dreiling, V. A. (Menshevik) | 1 | Yes |
2 | Prilezhaev, I. A. (SR - " Прилежаев , И.А. , член ЦК п.с.-р. , ученый агроном , редактор « Дела Народа » , кандидат совета партии") | 1 | Yes |
3 | Rafes, M. G. (Bund) | 1 | Yes |
4 | Białogrodzki, J. A. (PPS-Lewica) | 1 | Yes |
5 | Kruchinsky, I. M. (Menshevik, per https://vtoraya-literatura.com/pdf/volin_mensheviki_na_ukraine_1921-1921_1990__ocr.pdf ) | 1 | Yes |
6 | Sukhovikh, K. A. | 1 | Yes |
7 | Ginzburg (Naumov), A. M. | 1 | Yes |
8 | Shpolyansky, G. M. | 1 | Yes |
9 | Dorotov, A. V. | 1 | Yes |
10 | Sinikovsky, N. K. | 1 | Yes |
11 | Levin, I. L. | 1 | Yes |
12 | Dushkan, M. K. | 1 | Yes |
13 | Smirnov, V. A. | 1 | Yes |
14 | Lvov, V. M. | 1 | Yes |
15 | Balabanov, M. S. | 1 | Yes |
16 | Moreinis, L. K. | 1 | Yes |
17 | Aleksev, I. N. | 1 | Yes |
18 | Frumin, I. O. | 1 | Yes |
19 | Zolotorev, A. I. | 1 | Yes |
20 | Davidzon, I. L. (Menshevik, per https://vtoraya-literatura.com/pdf/volin_mensheviki_na_ukraine_1921-1921_1990__ocr.pdf ) | 1 | Yes |
21 | Kozachek, A. G. | 1 | Yes |
22 | Kononenkov, K. S. | 1 | Yes |
23 | Sklovsky, I. L. | 1 | Yes |
24 | Loginov, G. K. | 1 | Yes |
25 | Ryabtsov, E.P. | 1 | Yes |
26 | Orel, V. E. | 1 | Yes |
27 | Voropaeva, A. N. | 1 | Yes |
28 | Treskin, F. M. | 1 | Yes |
29 | Nikolaev, M. N. | 1 | Yes |
30 | Braun, E. O. | 1 | Yes |
31 | Spitsyn, A. F. (Menshevik, per https://vtoraya-literatura.com/pdf/volin_mensheviki_na_ukraine_1921-1921_1990__ocr.pdf ) | 1 | Yes |
32 | Zarubin, A. N. | 1 | Yes |
33 | Dobkin, S. Y. | 1 | Yes |
34 | Pshenichnyi, M. P. | 1 | Yes |
35 | Nezlobin, P. I. | 1 | Yes |
36 | Teslenko-Prykhodko, G. P. | 1 | "G. P." |
37 | Lesnevsky, P. F. | 1 | Yes |
38 | Slutsky, L. M. | 1 | Yes |
39 | Schlesinger, Y. L. | 1 | Yes |
40 | Deshevoi, M. S. | 1 | Yes |
41 | Raevsky, V. G. | 1 | Yes |
42 | Lagunov, S. I. | 1 | Yes |
43 | Logachev, P. N. | 1 | Yes |
44 | Krokos, G. S. | 1 | Yes |
45 | Lestschinsky, Y. D. | 2 | Yes |
46 | Kornsgold, S. G. | 2 | "S. G. Korn..." |
47 | Lestschinsky, I. D. | 2 | Yes |
48 | Shulgin, V. V. | 3 | Yes |
49 | Savenko, A. I. | 3 | Yes |
50 | Kikh, A. A. | 3 | Yes |
51 | Bogaevsky, P. M. | 3 | Yes |
52 | Rekashev, I. G. | 3 | Yes |
53 | Mossakovsky, A. A. | 3 | Yes |
54 | Petrov, G. I. | 3 | Yes |
55 | Demchenko, G. V. | 3 | Yes |
56 | Podrizan, V. N. | 3 | Yes |
57 | Khmelnytsky, S. Y. | 3 | Yes |
58 | Iosefi, V. G. | 3 | Yes |
59 | Shcheglov, B. N. | 3 | Yes |
60 | Grushevsky, S. G. | 3 | Yes |
61 | Kolpinkov, N. P. | 3 | Yes |
62 | Butovsky, A. M. | 3 | Yes |
63 | Moskvichev, I. F. | 3 | Yes |
64 | Kushnerchuk, G. G. | 3 | "G. G. Kushkerchuk"? |
65 | Tieder, I. M. | 3 | No |
66 | Grigorovich-Barsky, D. N. | 4 | Yes |
67 | Vasylenko, N. P. | 4 | Yes |
68 | Kosinsky, V. A. | 4 | Yes |
69 | Butenko, P. E. | 4 | Yes |
70 | Cholgansky, L. E. | 4 | Yes |
71 | Krupnov, S. G. | 4 | Yes |
72 | Tsyvkin, V. G. | 4 | Yes |
73 | Ulinitsky, V. V. | 4 | "V. V. Ulyanitsky"? |
74 | Maslennikov, M. I. | 4 | Yes |
75 | Yaroshevich, A. I. | 4 | Yes |
76 | Pietkiewicz, M. | 5 | "M. M. Petkevich" |
77 | Szarzyński, D. S. | 5 | Yes |
78 | Drogoszewski, A. S. - Aureli Drogoszewski ?? | 5 | Yes |
79 | Krzyżanowski, F. B. | 5 | Yes |
80 | Zarębski, M. G. | 5 | Yes |
81 | Smólski, I. K. | 5 | Yes |
82 | Syrkin, N. S. | 8 | "M. Sh. Syrkin" |
83 | Ginzburg, A. I. | 8 | Yes |
84 | Aleksandrov, M. I. | 8 | Yes |
85 | Surdutovich, M. S. | 8 | Yes |
86 | Lestschinsky, N. M. | 8 | Yes |
87 | Ivanov, A. I. | 10 | Yes |
88 | Bogdanov, M. S. | 10 | Yes |
89 | Galperin, R. V. | 10 | Yes |
90 | Maevskaya-Masalskaya, A. I. | 10 | Yes |
91 | Fialek, I. M. | 10 | Yes |
92 | Pyatakov, G. L. | 10 | Yes |
93 | Leontyev, M. L. | 10 | Yes |
94 | Vynnychenko, V. K. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
95 | Tertychny, S. N. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
96 | Koval, V. D. (UPSR) | 12 | Yes |
97 | Drahomanov, S. M. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
98 | Dovzhenko, V. D. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
99 | Kovaleva, A. L. (UPSR) | 12 | Yes |
100 | Antonovich, D. V. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
101 | Mikhail Tkachenko (USD) | 12 | Yes |
102 | Virko, I. F. (UPSR) | 12 | Yes |
103 | Tymoshenko, A. M. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
104 | Verbilenko, I. G. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
105 | Koliukh, D. V. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
106 | Maevsky, I. A. (UPSR) | 12 | Yes |
107 | Bilyashevsky, N. F. (UPSR) | 12 | Yes |
108 | Khomenko, P. S. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
109 | Kasyanenko, A. I. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
110 | Golubenko, A. E. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
111 | Bondarenko, M. L. (UPSR) | 12 | Yes |
112 | Miroshnichenko, V. K. (UPSR) | 12 | Yes |
113 | Ponyatenko, P. D. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
114 | Potsubeenko, A. F. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
115 | Chyakalenko, L. E. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
116 | Shleichenko, A. N. (UPSR) | 12 | Yes |
117 | Advienko, M. A. (USD) | 12 | Yes |
118 | Domosławski, K. S. | 14 | Yes |
119 | Yefremov, S. A. | 15 | Yes |
120 | Ilyin, N. I. | 17 | Yes |
Robitnycha Hazeta results
editLooking at Robitnycha Hazeta (Ukr S.-D. Workers Party organ), issue 94, 1917, p. 4, we find electoral result largely identical to that in 1917 god na Kiyevshchine (1928). One key difference is however that Robitnycha Hazeta gaves List 12 a total of 25 seats and no seat for List 17.
To complicate things further, whilst the UPSR organ Borotba, published a bit later, gives the List 12 bloc 24 seats, it allocates 10 seats to UPSR. Per Robitnycha Hazeta there would be 16 USDRP deputies and 9 UPSR deputies. I'll start marking USDRP/UPSR in list above per RH. -- Soman (talk) 18:34, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- So the 25th List 12 deputy, that doesn't appear in the Kievlyanin ref would be the 9th UPSR deputy V. A. Ignatienko. --Soman (talk) 18:50, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- This would have been Ігнатієнко Варфоломій Андріанович , who according to uk.wiki was elected
speakerdeputy of the City Duma in the summer of 1917... --Soman (talk) 18:52, 7 October 2023 (UTC)- To complicate even more, Киевская мысль , 25 July 1917 issue http://elib.shpl.ru/ru/nodes/66434-locale-nil-180-25-iyulya#mode/inspect/page/2/zoom/9 , has yet another listing of elected deputies to the City Duma. Moreover, it has voting result district by district, but seemingly with some errors. --Soman (talk) 11:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
- This would have been Ігнатієнко Варфоломій Андріанович , who according to uk.wiki was elected
Here [1] we find a listing of Polish deputies "Wiarą we własne siły mogły Pol . Komitet Wykonawczy natchnąć wybory do rady miejskiej Kijowa : tzw . „ Polska lista wyborcza " otrzymała 6 mandatów ( M. Pietkiewicz , D. Szarzyński , A. Drogoszewski , Krzyżanowski , M. Zarębski , Smólski ) . Tymczasem P.P.S. frakcja tylko 1 ( Kaz . Domosławski ) i P.P.S. lewica 1 ( Jan Białogrodzki )" --Soman (talk) 12:35, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- And here we have the full candidate listing for List 1, all names for 1-44 checks out. I added Russian names in hidden brackets above. --Soman (talk) 18:31, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
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