Talk:11th Airborne Division/GA1

Latest comment: 15 years ago by Skinny87 in topic Swing in command?

GA Review edit

Support It looks good to me. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 23:51, 16 June 2008 (UTC)Reply


Kevin, since this is just a 'one-on-one' basis, you can actually just promote the article. But, I largely agree with you. Some general comments though:

  1. I don't think '8,321' under the section Formation should have a comma. IMO, it's a bit confusing, especially since there is a comma right after the word 'men'.
  2. Perhaps the division's strength should be compared to other airborne divisions, as well? It seems to me that it is a tad unfair to compare specifically to the average size of an infantry division, since I'd think than an airborne division would be naturally smaller. But, you are the expert, so I'm not sure!
  3. Even though I believe footnote 4 is for both the sentence is comes after and the following, I think this should be sourced as well (grouped with the same footnote), since it's important and some people may see it as unsourced - General Eisenhower had conducted a thorough review of the performance of the American airborne forces during the operation, and had come to the conclusion that they were too difficult to control in combat and that as a result there should be no divisional-sized airborne formations. There's no such thing as too many footnotes, IMO.
  4. If there is an article on the actions of Leyte, it should be wikilinked in one way or another, I think. The same goes for all the other actions.

This said, I think that it passes GA review, on the following:

  • It is well written.
  • It is factually accurate.
  • It is broad in coverage.
  • It is neutral.
  • It is stable.
  • It is illustrated.

So, passed! JonCatalan (talk) 00:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)Reply

Swing in command? edit

"The 11th Airborne Division was officially activated on 25 February 1943 at Camp Mackall in North Carolina under the command of Major General Joseph M. Swing. ..."
"The Swing Board was a committee formed in mid-September 1943, ... chaired by General Swing, airborne advisor to General Dwight D. Eisenhower and who had recently returned from Sicily."

Did Swing not take effective command in February, or did he temporarily leave the division to assist Ike with Husky?
—WWoods (talk) 01:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Good point. There was another Major-General in command of the 11th for a little while. I'm real busy in RL at the moment, but give me a few days and I'll sort it out. Skinny87 (talk) 20:14, 19 July 2008 (UTC)Reply
I've added that Swing left for a little while and was replaced as commander of the 11th during his absence. I know 99.999% for sure that Chapman took his place, but I can't find the citation. Until I do, I'll leave it as ' a senior officer'. Hopefully that won't be for too long. Thanks for the helpful criticism - I hope that's sorted everything out! Skinny87 (talk) 21:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)Reply