Talk:(There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover

Inclusion of lyrics violates copyright

I presume that including the song's lyrics here violates the copyright holder's rights, as no one has noted that the song is released from copyright or licensed for use here. Many copyright standards expire once 70 years have passed since the work's creation or the author's death, and since the song was recorded in the 1940s, the copyright would expire in the 2010s, at the earliest.

If anyone else can reference a copyright release, feel free to re-add the lyrics. PaladinWhite 22:26, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

COMMENT ON LYRICS

Referring to the third paragraph of the Wikipedia entry where it says, on the one hand, that there are no bluebirds in Britain (or Europe), and on the other, that the "Bluebird of Happiness" symbolizes cheer ("confidence"), I would like to suggest that the author meant bluebirds not in a factual sense,but metaphorically. Moreover, "bluebirds" could even stand for the Royal Air Force pilots: They flew "like birds", and the color of their uniforms has been known, since 1919 and to this date, as "Air Force b l u e ". Schmodde33 (talk) 21:52, 8 May 2010 (UTC)Schmodde33 (talk) 19:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)Schmodde33 (talk) 20:03, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Interesting speculation, but is only speculation - Wikipedia articles are about facts rather than opinions. If you can find some evidence that the lyricist was referring to RAF pilots, please fee free to add it ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 13:27, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Please note, the stories about Norman Wisdom writing this song are false, false, false!

A classic example of vandalism on Wikipedia (which apparently got past an administrator -- shame!) then being picked up and given "legs" by lazy jourmalists on the Mirror (and also, it appears, The Guardian).Nandt1 (talk) 00:48, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, so the reference to Wisdom has now been dropped from this article -- though I wonder if it will be re-introduced? For anyone who needs any convincing that the Wisdom connection is a "con" from start to finish, please see this refutation: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/10/06/wikipedia_norman_wisdom/ Nandt1 (talk) 00:55, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Bluebirds

Hi, i am not proficient with editing articles, perhaps someone could help? Bluebirds I believe refers to the Spitfires of the RAF. Hence 'bluebirds over the white cliffs of dover' is a play on words suggesting Allied victory. I have no reference but I thought that common knowledge in England. Obviously referring to actual bluebirds as a species in England is absurd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.164.246 (talk) 00:50, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Interesting, an allusion to the planes, maybe. On the other hand we read: "There'll be blue birds over..." - blue birds (in two words, and not: bluebirds), what a nice contrast to the white cliffs ... fine poetry is like a colourful painting, isn't it? 84.160.35.199 (talk) 02:52, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Recent rendition

The song was sung by a winner [CHLOE HICKINBOTTOM]on a UK talent show, "Britain's Got Talent." I don't know if this is significant enough to go on the text page. Kdammers (talk) 01:57, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

librettist?

A libretto is the text of an opera, operetta, oratorio, musical etc. The text of a song is written by a "lyricist" not "librettist"! I will change that. If you find me wrong, you may revert it.Ed (talk) 02:37, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Other versions of the song

The Checkers, an American R&B group, recorded a very popular version of The White Cliffs of Dover in 1953. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.199.41.208 (talk) 20:20, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Bluebirds in England? (again)

Bluebird is an old colloquial name for swallows and house martins, migrant birds that fly over Dover twice a year, when arriving from the Continent in the spring, and when returning to the Continent in the fall. 82.209.146.194 (talk) 10:40, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

This and the other explanations further up the page are clever ways of justifying the phrase, after the fact, but really... Nat Burton just plain got it wrong. It happens. --Walnuts go kapow (talk) 18:15, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

I know for a fact that it's true (I'm a UK expat), but it's WP:OR, so I didn't add it. The European Blue Tit, which is common in Britain, including in southeastern England, is also sometimes referred to as a "bluebird". 82.209.146.194 (talk) 22:01, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Title

I was always under the impression the name of the song was simply "The White Cliffs of Dover", not "(There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs of Dover". It's hard to search for as there are so many extraneous hits. But if I'm right, all we'd need to disambiguate from the geographical feature is "The White Cliffs of Dover (song)". -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC)