Talk:Ștefan Răzvan

Latest comment: 11 years ago by לערי ריינהארט in topic please move the page to Ștefan Răzvan

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I see here that Răzvan was a Prince of Moldavia. Also, I can see that the information is more correctly than that in Romanian page. Still, it is a mistake in your text. With respect, I make here a quotation from Miron Costin - "Moldavian Chronicle from Aron until today". Miron Costin was a great writer and Historian from Moldavia (1623 - 1691). In his chronicle, we can read that Prince Aron of Moldavia was betrayed by two nobles : Ştefan Radu, Moldavian Court Chief of Prince Aron (in old Romanian, "vornic", a kind of prim-minister) and Răzvan, army commander. They ask Sigismund Bathory, Prince of Transylvania, to dethrone Aron. Sigismund Bathory send a Hungarian army and take all the family of Aron to Alba-Iulia (Belgrad, means the "White City"). Here, Aron was executed by the Hungarians. So, the wealth of Aron, taked by force from all the Moldavian population, was captured by Sigismund Bathory. Miron Costin wrote that Sigismund Bathory named Ştefan Radu (not Răzvan) as Prince of Moldavia. Then, Ştefan Radu was dethroned by Ieremia Movilă, with help of Polish army. Ieremia Movilă was fighting against tatars (70000) at Ţuţora, Jassy, october 9, 1595. After that, this Răzvan you named here, appears, when Sigismund Bathory attack Moldavia with 12000 Hungarian army, december 5, 1595. In Miron Costin chronicle, Sigismund Bathory said: "Ştefan Radu is guilty with his weakness, for taking the Moldavian throne by Polish Empire". So, we can see that are two different persons, Ştefan Radu, chief of Moldavian Court and Răzvan, army commander. Is also visible that their titles are different. In the battle from Şcheia, Suceava, Ieremia Movilă win against Răzvan and his army. Then, Răzvan was beheaded by Ieremia Movilă (not impaled, as is written here, Ieremia Movilă was a good man, an intellectual, cruelty of other princes was not proper for him). Once, because Răzvan try to dethrone him, and twice, Ieremia Movilă was afraid by Hungarians, who killed Aron. Also, Răzvan, the army commander, had the duty to protect the Prince of Moldavia, or, instead of this, he betrayed him. ("The Prince, evil or good, from God is" wrote Miron Costin somewhere). He was punished also for his betrayal - "So was paid back to Răzvan the evil done to Prince Aron". Now, we can see, according to Miron Costin chronicle, that Răzvan never ruled Moldavia. He was just a throne candidate, that never succeed. Miron Costin was a fair and very impartially writer who described Moldavian History. Also, he gave details about Ştefan Radu, the real Prince of Moldavia. It's time to say here that ethnic spring is not important in history. In this text that i wrote, is no racism against anyone. So, Prince Vasile Lupu of Moldavia was Albanian, and wife of the great Prince Alexandru cel Bun (Alexander the Good) was Hungarian. But, the great Prince was not removed from our history for that. I hope you understand this objections, to restore the true. I hope, also, you don't combat any possible discrimination by adopting historical fakes and errors.

Miron Costin, Moldavian Chronicle from Aron until today - here, today meaning the last years described by him in chronicle. Also, the quotations from this text was taken in English from chronicle, wrote in old Romanian, so I try to keep the idea in this quotations, maybe the translation was not strictly. With regards Bontas (talk) 11:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

please move the page to Ștefan Răzvan

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Hi! Today (18:55, 4 November 2013 (UTC))the title is using improper characters: Please note that ro.Wikipedia is using the correct spelling / writing Ștefan Răzvan.
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