Talk:Ōtāhuhu / Mount Richmond

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Sceptre in topic Requested Move 17 January 2023

Requested move 11 October 2014

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure)innotata 23:13, 18 October 2014 (UTC)Reply



Mount RichmondŌtāhuhu / Mount Richmond – New name for cone.[1][2] Haminoon (talk) 05:50, 11 October 2014 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "Ngā Mana Whenua o Tāmaki Makaurau Collective Redress Act 2014". Retrieved 11 October 2014.
  2. ^ "Volcanic cones regain Maori names". Retrieved 11 October 2014.

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Requested Move 17 January 2023

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) Sceptre (talk) 09:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)Reply


Mount RichmondŌtāhuhu / Mount Richmond – official name for cone since handover to Tūpuna Maunga Authority in 2014.[1][2]

Commonly used in official communications, and in NZ news media.[3][4][5] VolcanicMan (talk) 21:00, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

In that case, how do we know the english name is the commonly used one? I note the suburb in which Ōtāhuhu / Mount Richmond resides is named Ōtāhuhu. VolcanicMan (talk) 11:08, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
@VolcanicMan: I think your move request is malformed - have a look at the template in WP:RM to ensure it gets picked up properly by the bot. Turnagra (talk) 04:30, 17 January 2023 (UTC) (update: I seem to have fixed the formatting) Turnagra (talk) 06:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • Support - A couple of articles may not be enough, but I've gone through all of the relevant articles on google news which come up in a search for either "Mount Richmond" or "Mt Richmond" (eg. excluding the results for Mount Richmond Special School or the suburb Ōtāhuhu, and all of the Mount Richmonds (Mounts Richmond?) around the world). Interestingly, there were far more articles for Mount Richmond Forest Park before I excluded that, which suggests that the current title may not be precise enough. Of the 26 articles, a whopping 23 use the dual name in some form, while only two exclusively use "Mount Richmond". This seems to unambiguously establish that the dual name is the WP:COMMONNAME, even before we look that pages around the mountain almost exclusively use the dual name, while results for "Mount Richmond" are typically for the mountain in Nelson and "Mount Richmond Auckland" for the Mount Richmond Hotel. For a full breakdown of the news results as I saw them:
26 - overall
17 - Ōtāhuhu / Mount Richmond (or Ōtāhuhu / Mt Richmond)
2 - Ōtāhuhu Mount Richmond (or Ōtāhuhu Mt Richmond)
1 - Mt Richmond / Ōtāhuhu
1 - Otahuhu-Mount Richmond
1 - Otahuhu (Mt Richmond) - from before the name change
1 - "Mt Richmond (also known as Otahuhu)" - from before the name change
1 - Ōtāhuhu, Mount Richmond
2 - Mt Richmond (a 2016 real estate listing and 2014 liquor ban changes from before the new name)
When we also consider that maps, the gazetteer, and international databases all use the dual name, then this should be fairly uncontroversial as far as moves go. Turnagra (talk) 06:02, 17 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
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