Module talk:Country population

Static Row Numbers

Hey, Jts1882, would {{srn}} be useful in this module? — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (talk) 21:59, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done

FYI, you can't just add templates or tags to wikitext output generated in a module, as they won't expand properly. You need to use frame:expandTemplate or frame:extensionTag

P.S. I don't think the template {{srn}} is a good idea. It's to short to make it clear what it does and looks like one of the short note citation template, which could confuse people. Better to use the full template name which gives an indication of what it is doing. —  Jts1882 | talk  08:56, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (talk) 09:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Bottom alignment

Jts1882: Rows seem to be valigned to the bottom. I had a look at the code, and could only find bottom alignment for the header row, which is fine. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (talk) 01:07, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Flaglist vs Flagcountry

Jts1882: Wouldn't {{flaglist}} be better for alignment than {{flagcountry}} here? — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 (talk) 01:28, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Template wrapper

I started a template wrapper for this module bc I wanted to pass the list of countries as a template (like the {{List of countries in South America}}), bc the MW engine processes modules before templates. The main function here is commented with called from template, but I got stuck passing through the arguments. Did you already create the template you referred to there, Jts1882, or can you help me beat that one into shape? Cheers. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 ☎ 08:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

The main() function wasn't doing anything. The module was using p.populations().

When a module is called directly from #invoke the arguments are in frame.args. The function p.populations() uses these frame arguments. I've split p.populations to have an entry point for invoke that gets the frame arguments and calls p._populations() to generate the table.

When called from a template the arguments are in the parent frame. I've changed main() to get the parent frame arguments and then call p._populations() so it now seems to work for the template. Not an ideal approach but an easy change for now. —  Jts1882 | talk  10:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Country	Projected population (30 October 2024)	Pct of total	UN Population estimates		Annual growth		Doubling time (years)
			1 July 2023	1 July 2022	Increment	Rate
Brazil	212,257,764	48.64%	211,140,729	210,306,415	834,314	0.40%	175
Colombia	53,108,623	12.17%	52,321,152	51,737,944	583,208	1.13%	62
Argentina	45,712,897	10.47%	45,538,401	45,407,904	130,497	0.29%	242
Peru	34,345,324	7.87%	33,845,617	33,475,438	370,179	1.11%	63
Venezuela	28,418,339	6.51%	28,300,854	28,213,017	87,837	0.31%	223
Chile	19,800,723	4.54%	19,658,835	19,553,036	105,799	0.54%	128
Ecuador	18,190,361	4.17%	17,980,083	17,823,897	156,186	0.88%	79
Bolivia	12,470,321	2.86%	12,244,159	12,077,154	167,005	1.38%	50
Paraguay	6,957,281	1.59%	6,844,146	6,760,464	83,682	1.24%	56
Uruguay	3,384,310	0.78%	3,388,081	3,390,913	−2,832	−0.08%	−830
Guyana	832,680	0.19%	826,353	821,637	4,716	0.57%	121
Suriname	636,593	0.15%	628,886	623,164	5,722	0.92%	76
French Guiana	310,329	0.07%	303,402	298,306	5,096	1.71%	41
Falkland Islands	3,460	0.00%	3,477	3,490	−13	−0.37%	−186
Total	436,429,006	100%	433,024,175	430,492,779	2,531,396	0.58%	118

I wonder what I need to do to get this to work:

Country	Projected population (30 October 2024)	Pct of total	Annual growth		Doubling time (years)
			Increment	Rate
Brazil	212,257,764	48.64%	834,314	0.40%	175
Colombia	53,108,623	12.17%	583,208	1.13%	62
Argentina	45,712,897	10.47%	130,497	0.29%	242
Peru	34,345,324	7.87%	370,179	1.11%	63
Venezuela	28,418,339	6.51%	87,837	0.31%	223
Chile	19,800,723	4.54%	105,799	0.54%	128
Ecuador	18,190,361	4.17%	156,186	0.88%	79
Bolivia	12,470,321	2.86%	167,005	1.38%	50
Paraguay	6,957,281	1.59%	83,682	1.24%	56
Uruguay	3,384,310	0.78%	−2,832	−0.08%	−830
Guyana	832,680	0.19%	4,716	0.57%	121
Suriname	636,593	0.15%	5,722	0.92%	76
French Guiana	310,329	0.07%	5,096	1.71%	41
Falkland Islands	3,460	0.00%	−13	−0.37%	−186
Total	436,429,006	100%	2,531,396	0.58%	118

Yeah, well, I know it works like that—{{Country populations|ARG|BOL|BRA|COL|PER|VEN|CHL|ECU|PRY|URY|GUY|GUF|SUR|FLK}}—but what I really wanted was:

{{Country populations|{{List of countries in South America|ISO=y}}}}

{{Country populations|{{List of countries in South America|ISO=y}}}}

The motive here is replicating the good work you did with {{Country populations}} to, say, {{Country areas}}, {{Country densities}}, etc, so that the list of countries in each region could be centrally maintained in a single template for each. — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 ☎ 21:59, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

The problem there is that the result of that is to set parameter {{para|1|{{List of countries in South America|ISO=y}}}}.

I don't think you can use a template to supply a series of parameters. The solutions is to get the module to handle a list (e.g. comma delimited). If the module is handling it, then the lists may as well be stored in a subpage and be provided a via a parameter, e.g. |. —  Jts1882 | talk  08:24, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Country	Projected population (30 October 2024)	Pct of total	UN Population estimates		Annual growth		Doubling time (years)
			1 July 2023	1 July 2022	Increment	Rate
United States	346,084,348	56.74%	343,477,335	341,534,046	1,943,289	0.57%	122
Mexico	131,256,587	21.52%	129,739,759	128,613,117	1,126,642	0.88%	79
Canada	39,945,084	6.55%	39,299,105	38,821,259	477,846	1.23%	57
Guatemala	18,500,635	3.03%	18,124,838	17,847,877	276,961	1.55%	45
Haiti	11,818,124	1.94%	11,637,398	11,503,606	133,792	1.16%	60
Dominican Republic	11,466,643	1.88%	11,331,265	11,230,734	100,531	0.90%	78
Cuba	10,966,995	1.80%	11,019,931	11,059,820	−39,889	−0.36%	−192
Honduras	10,890,916	1.79%	10,644,851	10,463,872	180,979	1.73%	40
Nicaragua	6,949,498	1.14%	6,823,613	6,730,654	92,959	1.38%	51
El Salvador	6,348,891	1.04%	6,309,624	6,280,319	29,305	0.47%	149
Costa Rica	5,137,363	0.84%	5,105,525	5,081,765	23,760	0.47%	149
Panama	4,537,226	0.74%	4,458,759	4,400,773	57,986	1.32%	53
Jamaica	2,840,642	0.47%	2,839,786	2,839,144	642	0.02%	3,066
Trinidad and Tobago	1,512,327	0.25%	1,502,932	1,495,921	7,011	0.47%	148
Belize	422,536	0.07%	411,106	402,733	8,373	2.08%	34
Bahamas	401,989	0.07%	399,440	397,538	1,902	0.48%	145
Barbados	274,556	0.05%	282,336	288,318	−5,982	−2.07%	−33
Saint Lucia	179,959	0.03%	179,285	178,781	504	0.28%	246
Grenada	117,305	0.02%	117,081	116,913	168	0.14%	483
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines	100,367	0.02%	101,323	102,046	−723	−0.71%	−97
Antigua and Barbuda	93,954	0.02%	93,316	92,840	476	0.51%	136
Dominica	66,091	0.01%	66,510	66,826	−316	−0.47%	−146
Saint Kitts and Nevis	46,823	0.01%	46,758	46,709	49	0.10%	661
Total	609,958,858	100%	604,011,876	599,595,611	4,416,265	0.73%	94

The above table is generated with {{Country populations|list=North America}}. The list of countries is stored in a table as follows:

	
local country_lists = {
  ['South America'] = { "ARG","BOL","BRA","CHL","COL","ECU","GUY","PRY","PER","SUR","URY","VEN","BVT","FLK","SGS","GUF" },
  ['North America'] = { "ATG","BHS","BLZ","BRB","CAN","CRI","CUB","DMA","DOM","GRD","GTM","HND","HTI","JAM","KNA","LCA","MEX","NIC","PAN","SLV","TTO","USA","VCT" },
  ['Arab countries'] = { "EGY","DZA","SDN","IRQ","MAR","SAU","YEM","SYR","TUN","JOR","ARE","LBN","LBY","PSE","OMN","KWT","MRT","QAT","BHR","DJI","COM" }
}

At the moment it is just a local variable in the function, but I suggest putting them in a subpage of the module. Then the subpage can be used by other modules. —  Jts1882 | talk  16:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Yep, that's useful. Unfortunately, the other aim I had in mind no worky — 𝐆𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐚 ☎ 06:05, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Bug

Something's gone awry with the module, Jts1882. Look at the missing 2nd figures column heading, and that the projected populations are lower than the latest (2019) estimate: List of African countries by population. Cheers. — Guarapiranga ☎ 03:20, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

The module gets the dates and data from List of countries by population (United Nations). You changed the section labels with this edit, so the date calculations no longer work correctly. You can also see that the first date column header is missing in List of African countries by population. —  Jts1882 | talk  07:09, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Yes, and additionally in List of African countries by population, Guinea-Bissau is missing. Does anyone know what is causing this bug? I wasn't able to follow the explanation above. I can't see anything problematic in the UN source list. Cstanford.math (talk) 19:19, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Cstanford.math:. The section labels weren't set properly in the page with the population data (List of countries by population (United Nations)). I've set them now (with this edit) and the previous module version of List of African countries by population seems to work (you may need to display it in edit preview due to caching). —  Jts1882 | talk  07:22, 3 September 2021 (UTC)