Draft:The Astrid Experience

• Comment: This film has subsequently been distributed by Amazon Prime Video and Tubi. It was recently reviewed by the UK Film Review. The Unlimited God (talk) 23rd of August, 2023 (UTC)

• Comment: The Astrid Experience was featured on the front page of The Statesman Journal this morning which is a well-circulated, reputable newspaper in Oregon's Willamette Valley. The Unlimited God (talk) 17th August, 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: The film trailer has received over one hundred thousand views world-wide. Additional interviews and coverage on the project have been released. The Unlimited God (talk) 27th February, 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: WP:NFILM. An official trailer was just released for this film by the production company. The director of this project is a notable person and the film has notable cast members. The Unlimited God (talk) 10th February, 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: WP:NFILM. This film has continued to garner additional coverage as of late and its validity as a project appears to be growing. It is covered in Production list, Script Mag, LRM, and Screen Fervor. Please consider for inclusion if applicable. Thank you. The Unlimited God (talk) 16th May, 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: WP:NFILM. I noticed this film is now released so I revisited this article for creation. I included a full link to the publicly available film and more relevant sources. The Unlimited God (talk) 5th April, 2023 (UTC)

• Comment: Now that it's been released, needs critical reception and box office beyond the one location. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:47, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

• Comment: OK, here's my two cents. this film isn't yet notable per NFF. Here's my rundown of the sourcing:
  #The Statesman. This is fine and usable to help count towards notability. However it's local coverage, which tends to lessen its impact with many Wikipedians since it's assumed that local papers will cover local people or events. I don't always agree with that, but it is what it is and it came about mostly as a result of people using solely local color coverage to justify articles on truly non-notable businesses and people.
  #LRM Online. This looks to be very heavily based on a press release, as much of the content has been printed word for word elsewhere. This type of thing is often seen as more of a WP:TRIVIAL source than anything else.
  #Script magazine. This site is very, very keen on getting users to sign up for various services. The marketing page is also a little coy about all that it offers, so there's question about whether or not they sell sponsored articles. However that said, there's another issue here: it's just a short post stating that people should listen to the podcast. (The podcast has its own issues, which I'll go into a bit later.) So this would be trivial at best.
  #Screen Fervor. This is an interview, which is viewed by many as a WP:PRIMARY source since in many cases the interview isn't vetted like a written article would be and is written in the voice of the person being interviewed. It's not something I always agree with, that interviews can't assert notability, but it's a widely enough held stance on Wikipedia that this makes it a fairly weak source at best.
  #Voyage LA. This is an interview, same issues apply.
  #podcast. This is a podcast and would be seen as a self-published source (WP:SPS) with unclear editorial and vetting oversight. If it can be established that the person running the podcast is routinely seen as a reliable source by other reliable sources, particularly high quality reliable sources like academic and scholarly sources, then SPS can sometimes be used. I did check but it doesn't seem like Meyers is at this point just yet. So this would be a primary source at best. To be honest, podcasts are typically not great sources to use unless you're backing up basic details (ie, using an interview as a primary source)
  #Production list. This is a routine database listing, so it can't establish notability - it can back up basic details, but that's about it. At most it would be a trivial or primary source, as the content is typically supplied by someone involved with the production.
  #Podcast interview. This poses the same issues as the other podcast and with interviews in general.
  #Movie Insider. This is a basic database type listing, not an indepth article.
  #WeFunder. This would be a primary source since it's the crowdfunding campaign. The site did mention it in a newsletter, however since it's on their site they have a vested interest in seeing it succeed (ie, getting the fees from the funding, ability to say that they help fund projects) it would be primary. On a side note, avoid saying that someone partnered with a crowdfunding site - it's more accurate to say that the site hosted a campaign, as partnering implies that the site had more of an active hand in the creation and production than hosting the campaign.
  #Trailer and the official website. Both of these are primary since they were created/uploaded by the people involved with the film.
  Ultimately most of the sourcing is either primary, trivial, routine database type listings, or are otherwise a self-published source. The strongest source is the Statesman piece, which will likely be seen as local coverage by many and as such, less strong than if it were covered by a non-local paper.
  To pass WP:NFF the coverage has to be much, much stronger than this. There needs to be a lot of coverage of the film in independent, reliable sources and needs to be in-depth. To be honest, most films don't get this unless they're major Hollywood blockbusters and even then, I've seen films get kept in draftspace until there's confirmation that filming began - even if the movie has been covered in hundreds of major news sources. Your best bet here is to wait until the film releases and gains some reviews. In the meantime, review the Film WikiProject's page on sourcing film articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Resources. ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 07:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: Coverage in a couple of trade magazines is not compelling. Also IMDB is considered unreliable and cannot be used as a source. Sulfurboy (talk) 04:12, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: How many views on youtube the trailer has gotten has zero effect on proving the notability of the subject. I recommend reviewing the standards of WP:NFILM or WP:GNG Sulfurboy (talk) 01:15, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: Mostly primary or unreliable sources. Also probably a case of WP:TOOSOON Sulfurboy (talk) 05:25, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

• Comment: Fails WP:NFILM. Sources are all either based on interviews with the director or his own website. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 16:33, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

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The Astrid Experience
Directed by	Cal Barnes
Written by	Cal Barnes
Produced by	John That, Cal Barnes
Starring	Cal Barnes Lucia Xypteras Rob Conroy Mena Santos John That Lotus Bech Melissa Riso Caitlin O'Connor
Cinematography	Christopher Pilarski
Edited by	Kelly Soll, Cal Barnes
Running time	88 minutes
Country	United States
Language	English

The Astrid Experience is an upcoming romantic comedy-drama film written & directed by Cal Barnes and starring Cal Barnes, Lucia Xypteras, Rob Conroy, Mena Santos, and John That. The story follows Chase Abbott, a famous young artist in recovery who meets a free spirited-actress named Astrid.

Plot

Chase Abbott is down and out — literally — he has gone from being on the town’s hot-list of successful, young Hollywood talent, to signing books in the back of a dilapidated bookstore in the valley. To top it all off, the only girl he’s ever truly loved just left him due to a lack of future potential. A mere fall from grace would be putting it mildly, his life is literally falling apart around him, and it gets darker everyday. When Chase is at the breaking-point, he meets a free-spirited young actress named Astrid Stevens who shows him he has something more worth living for.

Cast

• Cal Barnes as Chase Abbott
• Lucia Xypteras as Astrid Stevens
• Rob Conroy as Robbie Baker
• Mena Santos as Chels
• Lotus Bech as Emma
• John That as Himself
• Melissa Riso as Lexi
• Caitlin O'Connor as Brianna
• Petrie Willink as Danny
• Brett Colbeth as Jerry Summers
• Erica Shaffer as Mrs. Abbott
• Mariel Suarez as Tina

Production

Development & Production

Barnes wrote a first-draft of the script in 2012, but was shelved until a later date as he worked on other projects. His friend/collaborator, musician John That, contacted him and asked if he had any features that they could produce themselves. Barnes resisted the script and they went into production in 2019.

Filming

Principal photography for the film lasted approximately two weeks in Los Angeles, California in 2019. Barnes edited the film and shot several rounds of pick-ups before completing the film. Barnes mentioned that the process of acting and directing at the same time was a challenging experience.

Post-production

The Astrid Experience entered post-production in 2019 after several week so principle photography where the editing process began. On April 24th, 2020, Barnes and That launched a crowdfunding campaign on Wefunder to complete the film. Barnes also travelled to his home state of Oregon to seek additional investment. The project was successfully funded on November 1st, 2020.

Music

The original soundtrack for the film was created by musician John That and music producer Moss Dub, along with their band ACADEMY.

Premiere

The Astrid Experience had its world-premiere at the Laemmle Royal Theatre in Santa Monica, California on March 23rd, 2023.

Release

The Astrid Experience was released on the Official Noblehooks Productions Youtube Channel on March 25th, 2023. The film has subsequently been distributed by both Tubi and Amazon Prime Video.

Reception

William Hemingway of the UK Film Review gave the film two out of five stars, summing up that "The Astrid Experience is one of those typical Hollywood beasts, trying to tell cool LA stories which us normals can idolize and aspire to, just doing what it's doing without really seeing what it's actually up to."He did, however, give praise to the film's music, stating that "The music may be the only positive to The Astrid Experience as the easy beats from John That, Matt Osenton, and Academy fit in nicely with the night lights and LA lifestyle."

External links

• Official website
• The Astrid Experience at IMDb