Category talk:Wikipedia categories

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Old header instructions edit

If you add a category to this page, please also add it on Wikipedia:Categorization projects (current)#Top-Level/TOC_Categories and explain it there.

There's now just a link from there to here, so no need to worry about synchronization anymore. -- Beland 00:40, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It is now Wikipedia:Categorization projects (current)#Table of Contents schemes. Brian Jason Drake 11:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

What is Category:Categories? edit

(Also posted to User_talk:SEWilco) [Seems to have been removed from User talk:SEWilco Brianjd 05:46, 2004 Dec 24 (UTC)]

I don't really understand what Category:Categories is. Please expand the description.

I am especially confused by the sentance "This is one of several Wikipedia category schemes.". Category:Categories appears to have only 5 items in it: Categories by country, Dewey Decimal Classification, Fundamental, Main page, Wikipedia. It does not appear that list forms a "category scheme". 2 of them are category schemes (Categories by coutry appears to be borderline; it couldn't include everything, but it is a meta-category...), 1 of them appears to be trying to do the same thing as the Wikipedia namespace(Wikipedia) and "Main page" seems to be just a method of mentioning what categories are listed on the main page within the category system itself. That list does not form a "category scheme", at least not to me.

Did you mean that Category:Categories is a Category for other "category schemes"? If so, that really should be clarified, and I Wikipedia, at least, should be removed. Also, I think there are quite a few other "category schemes" you should include, if that's what Category:Categories is. Again, please clarify. Thanks for all your work in Wikipedia. JesseW 09:08, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Since I've not gotten any respnse yet, I'm going to remove the entries in this Catagory that are not listed on Wikipedia:Categorization_projects_(current)#Top-Level.2FTOC_Categories. The relevant text(as of 10:23, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)) is:
"Currently there are two top level categories:
  1. Category:Fundamental
  2. Category:Main page"
JesseW 10:23, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)
I'll do this later. JesseW 10:58, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

What is Category:Main page? edit

Category:Main page has been deleted. See Category talk:Main page [only administrators can see deleted versions at this time Brian Jason Drake 11:35, 10 November 2005 (UTC)] and Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#Category:Main page.Reply

Other category schemes? edit

Shouldn't this category show all the different category schemes in Wikipedia. Why only two? :ChrisG 22:26, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

What else would you propose adding? It used to have the Dewey system and the Wikipedia category in it also(see talk above); would you re-add those, and/or what else? I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other. JesseW 06:19, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedia does not represent a category scheme. It just contains categories and articles about Wikipedia, so it is not any different to most other categories. Brianjd 06:50, 2004 Nov 30 (UTC)
I agree. Thank you for explaining it clearly. JesseW 06:59, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Is this needed? edit

How is this category different from Category:Fundamental? Karol 08:49, 8 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

This category is supposed to contain all the categories and articles which represent a categorization scheme. Category:Fundamental is one of those schemes. -- Beland 17:33, 30 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

Main page cats edit

This category contains all but one of the main page categories (the exception is Category:Technology). Why is this? Brian Jason Drake 09:32, 10 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

  • I fixed this by creating Category:Top 8, which includes Category:Technology and all the others. -- Beland 17:49, 30 November 2005 (UTC)Reply

New category problem edit

I want to create Category:Categories that are not members of themselves, but I couldn't decide whether or not it should be a member of itself. Can anyone help? —Ashley Y 01:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)Reply

See Russell's paradox. Brian Jason Drake 00:47, 17 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
You have a good sense of humor, ashley. nadav 15:58, 25 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
If it wasn't included in it's own category people could think #"ah! this is the only page that doesn't belong in a category...thus this is the top category!" If it was in it's own category and people clicked it repeatedly watching it redirects to the same page each time they click they could think #"This page redirects to itself, either someone has done an error, or this page just doesn't belong to any category, thus I will remove it". After this 'deep thinking' I think that it shouldn't belong to any category, not even itself. Although the main page could belong to the category, the category itself doesn't need to belong to any category. Logictheo 19:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Shortcut appropriate? edit

Hello. I know that the shortcut policy as listed at WP:SHORT is that shortcuts can only be created for the WP: namespace. However, CAT:CSD has a shortcut, and I think it would make sense to create a CAT:CAT shortcut that points to Category:Categories. Is this allowed? Lbbzman 16:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)Reply

Appears so.G.He 01:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
  1. WP:SHORT is a guildeline, not a policy.
  2. Where does it say only to use shortcuts for the WP: namespace? Brian Jason Drake 02:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)Reply
Well when I created my question in January, WP:SHORT was presented as a shortcut policy, and the page said to only link to WP:. I went ahead and created the shortcut after receiving no contrary opinions. WP:SHORT has obviously changed since January. Cheers, Lbbzman 03:56, 24 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Circular category parentage edit

Is this category a parent or a subcategory of Category: Container categories? It cannot be both. Ottawahitech (talk) 23:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)please ping meReply