Category talk:Hong Kong hepatologists
Latest comment: 4 years ago by Zanhe in topic Categorisation
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Categorisation edit
@Huangdan2060: – regarding this revision – Hong Kong people, i.e. Hong Kong permanent residents, do not necessarily possess Chinese nationality. Hence, a Hong Kong hepatologist is not necessarily of Chinese nationality, and therefore the category should not be subcategorised as such. Thanks, Citobun (talk) 08:23, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Hong Kong actors/ Category:Hong Kong actresses under the Category:Chinese actors/ Category:Chinese actresses. Even Category:Hong Kong doctors under the Category:Chinese physicians. They are not all Chinese nationality.--Huangdan2060 (talk) 08:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- That is because Hong Kong categories have been systematically recategorised by certain editors over the past few years. Hong Kong actors, for instance, was not a subcategory of "Category:Chinese actors" originally. Besides, that other stuff exists does not refute my point. If, by your own admission, the people populating these categories are not all of Chinese nationality, then why are those categories under parent categories implying otherwise? Citobun (talk) 08:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Agree with Huangdan2060. Virtually all categories under Category:Hong Kong people are subcategories of corresponding Chinese people categories, and there's no reason this one should be treated differently. This is longstanding convention (Category:Hong Kong actors was added to Category:Chinese actors way back in 2004 [1]). Category:People from Shanghai contains plenty of non-Chinese people as well, but that does not justify removing it from Chinese people categories. -Zanhe (talk) 08:49, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- I contest that this is longstanding convention. It's just flipped back and forth a few times over the years. Placing these categories under "Chinese nationality" parent categories falsely implies that the subject articles possess Chinese nationality, which is not necessarily true. Hence, the Hong Kong categories should simply not be categorised as such. I'm not seeing any counter-argument here. Citobun (talk) 08:55, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- The only person who persistently contested the issue was the notorious long-term abuser User:Instantnood, who was blocked more than a decade ago but has used many sock puppets to continue his disruption. Start an RFC if you want to change this longstanding convention, it's pointless to argue on the talk page of an obscure subcategory. -Zanhe (talk) 09:05, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- I contest that this is longstanding convention. It's just flipped back and forth a few times over the years. Placing these categories under "Chinese nationality" parent categories falsely implies that the subject articles possess Chinese nationality, which is not necessarily true. Hence, the Hong Kong categories should simply not be categorised as such. I'm not seeing any counter-argument here. Citobun (talk) 08:55, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Agree with Huangdan2060. Virtually all categories under Category:Hong Kong people are subcategories of corresponding Chinese people categories, and there's no reason this one should be treated differently. This is longstanding convention (Category:Hong Kong actors was added to Category:Chinese actors way back in 2004 [1]). Category:People from Shanghai contains plenty of non-Chinese people as well, but that does not justify removing it from Chinese people categories. -Zanhe (talk) 08:49, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- That is because Hong Kong categories have been systematically recategorised by certain editors over the past few years. Hong Kong actors, for instance, was not a subcategory of "Category:Chinese actors" originally. Besides, that other stuff exists does not refute my point. If, by your own admission, the people populating these categories are not all of Chinese nationality, then why are those categories under parent categories implying otherwise? Citobun (talk) 08:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- Category:Hong Kong actors/ Category:Hong Kong actresses under the Category:Chinese actors/ Category:Chinese actresses. Even Category:Hong Kong doctors under the Category:Chinese physicians. They are not all Chinese nationality.--Huangdan2060 (talk) 08:31, 23 January 2020 (UTC)