Category talk:Categories by republic of the Soviet Union
Latest comment: 3 years ago by Place Clichy in topic Copy of speedy discussion
Copy of speedy discussion
editDiscussion copied from WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy. Place Clichy (talk) 14:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Category:People's Commissars and Ministers of the Soviet Union by Union Republic to Category:People's commissars and ministers of the Soviet Union by republic – C2A, capitalization; C2C eliminate "Union" per Category:Republics of the Soviet Union Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:11, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Category:People's Commissariats and Ministries of the Soviet Union by Union Republic to Category:People's commissariats and ministries of the Soviet Union by republic – C2A, capitalization; C2C eliminate "Union" per Category:Republics of the Soviet Union Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:07, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Supreme Soviets of the Union Republics of the USSR to Category:Supreme soviets of the republics of the Soviet Union – C2A, capitalization; C2C per Category:Soviet Union and subcategories; C2C eliminate "Union" per Category:Republics of the Soviet Union. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:53, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy for categories mentioning Union Republics as this is not so clear-cut. The term Union Republics of the Soviet Union explicitly refers to the 15 constituent republics that made the Soviet Union, whereas the uncapitalized term of republics can also refer to lower-level subdivisions. Place Clichy (talk) 17:14, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Place Clichy, would it be okay with you if these were speedily renamed to Category:People's commissars and ministers of the Soviet Union by union republic, Category:People's commissariats and ministries of the Soviet Union by union republic, and Category:Supreme soviets of the union republics of the Soviet Union – changing the capitalization and use of "USSR" but retaining "union republic"? Then I could nominate the resulting categories for a full discussion on the union republic vs. republic issue. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Good Olfactory: Yes I agree to speedily rename using "Soviet Union" rather than USSR and small case for union republics, as article Republics of the Soviet Union uses small case for union republics and autonomous republics. I would like to invite you to also nominate in the same full discussion Category:Categories by republic of the Soviet Union and its subcategories to use by union republic, as it seems that most of these categories were recently created or speedily renamed to wrongly use just republic. Place Clichy (talk) 10:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Place Clichy, well, in a full discussion I might go in the other direction and suggest that we don't need "union", but that won't stop us from agreeing here on just the USSR and capitalization fixes. Thanks. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:40, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Good Olfactory: I respect the fact that you may argue that in a discussion, as it is precisely what a discussion is for. However this shouldn't stop us from agreeing that a coherent format should probably be used consistently for all these categories, whether we decide that categories of the Soviet Union should be diffused by republic, by union republic, by autonomous republic or all of that. Place Clichy (talk) 14:10, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- Place Clichy, well, in a full discussion I might go in the other direction and suggest that we don't need "union", but that won't stop us from agreeing here on just the USSR and capitalization fixes. Thanks. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:40, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Good Olfactory: Yes I agree to speedily rename using "Soviet Union" rather than USSR and small case for union republics, as article Republics of the Soviet Union uses small case for union republics and autonomous republics. I would like to invite you to also nominate in the same full discussion Category:Categories by republic of the Soviet Union and its subcategories to use by union republic, as it seems that most of these categories were recently created or speedily renamed to wrongly use just republic. Place Clichy (talk) 10:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Place Clichy, would it be okay with you if these were speedily renamed to Category:People's commissars and ministers of the Soviet Union by union republic, Category:People's commissariats and ministries of the Soviet Union by union republic, and Category:Supreme soviets of the union republics of the Soviet Union – changing the capitalization and use of "USSR" but retaining "union republic"? Then I could nominate the resulting categories for a full discussion on the union republic vs. republic issue. Good Ol’factory (talk) 21:53, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy for categories mentioning Union Republics as this is not so clear-cut. The term Union Republics of the Soviet Union explicitly refers to the 15 constituent republics that made the Soviet Union, whereas the uncapitalized term of republics can also refer to lower-level subdivisions. Place Clichy (talk) 17:14, 18 March 2021 (UTC)