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ITN recognition for Ivan Boesky edit

Latest comment: 13 days ago1 comment1 person in discussion

On 23 May 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Ivan Boesky, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 15:49, 23 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

About your partial block of Factcheckworld212 edit

Latest comment: 2 days ago3 comments2 people in discussion

2601:240:CF80:70:4813:EE43:9963:A91D ? Skywatcher68 (talk) 20:18, 29 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Skywatcher68. Apologies for the late response, but I've been out of town (and ill) for most of the last week. Not sure if your concerns have been addressed by another admin. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hey, hope you're feeling better. I started a SPI while you were gone; results inconclusive. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 02:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Big article in need of help edit

Latest comment: 2 days ago3 comments2 people in discussion

Hey Ad Orientem, Split of Christianity and Judaism Is quite skeletal, and could use some support from interested editors :) Zanahary (talk) 08:25, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Zanahary Yeah that does look a little rough. Have you posted to WT:Christianity and/or WT:JUDAISM? -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:02, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Good idea—I just notified both. Zanahary (talk) 02:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

A barnstar for you! edit

Latest comment: 1 day ago2 comments2 people in discussion

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Thanks for your years of work in–among various other contributions–upholding NPOV. (In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing you more in the post-1992 politics arena again...) In any case, best wishes! Biohistorian15 (talk) 16:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Biohistorian15 Thank you for the kind words! That said I find the project's coverage of modern American politics to be a source of not infrequent frustration and prefer to avoid the topic except when dealing with obviously disruptive behavior. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:59, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

User will not abide by "do not post on my talk page" edit

Latest comment: 14 hours ago9 comments3 people in discussion

@Lunar-akaunto I realize disagreements with other editors can be a source of frustration. However, please respect Ss112's request and refrain from posting on their talk page unless obliged by policy/guidelines. It would be best probably if you tried to avoid contact to the extent possible. If you do feel a need to communicate, I suggest requesting assistance from another experienced editor who can serve as an intermediary. @Ss112. I am going to strongly encourage you to reciprocate by avoiding unnecessary contact. As you both have overlapping areas of interest, this may not always be possible. But please do your best. Specifically, I ask that you refrain from reverting each other's edits w/o first discussing your concerns with an uninvolved experienced editor. I think we can now move on from this. Thank you both for your contributions to the project. -Ad Orientem (talk) 14:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hi AO. I have previously asked the editor Lunar-akaunto to not post at my talk page three times. They still don't get it. This editor was blocked for close to two years and changed their username. I asked them on their old account not to [1], then when they were unblocked, one of the first things they did was post on my talk page again, even acknowledging in the post that I asked them not to post there. Now they see fit to answer others' questions for me. I know you don't like when editors ask others not to post at their talk page because it can block open communication or some such, but there is no need for them to post at my talk page. Could you maybe ask this user to respect whom I want posting at my talk page? Ss112 06:32, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Fine, fine, I won't post ever again. Be happy. I only ever posted because you reverted the editor in question and did not provide an explanation in the edit summary or on the talk page when asked. Clearly, it is not possible to read through all the templates, and not everyone's familiar with all the guides, so I thought it'd be helpful. Lunar-akaunto／talk 06:37, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Lunar-akaunto: Whether I choose to answer somebody at my talk page or not is really none of your concern. It's not something you need to intervene on my behalf for, especially when I've asked you not to post there for any reason. My revert of that editor was sufficient enough explanation. Now please leave me alone—that includes looking through my contributions or perusing my talk page. We don't even edit in the same topic area 95% of the time. I have only posted at your talk page to point you to guidelines and what is best practice on en.wiki because disregarding them is what you were blocked for (and an article you created the other day showed up as lacking an album cover in a tracking category before you uploaded the album cover, which is how I came across your file names). That doesn't mean what I said about my talk page no longer applies. Please take my talk page off your watchlist if it is on there. Ss112 06:47, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I do not intervene on your behalf; I did so for the project as a whole. Clearly, the user posting on your talk page even after your edit summary indicates he did not understand why you reverted them. I absolutely have no desire to look through your contributions or talk page. I only arrived at your talk page because you did not respond to the file names conversation you initiated on my talk page. I thought to post regarding that but changed my mind and happened to see the other user's message (if I did have your talk page on my watchlist, I would have replied 2 days ago, don't you think?). But if you insist, I'll let this be our last interaction in words. bye~bye. Lunar-akaunto／talk 09:28, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Lunar-akaunto: You have "absolutely no desire to look through [my] contributions", yet you obviously did look through my contributions to find that I posted here—I didn't ping you and you've never posted here before. To clarify: I felt that my response was enough. I didn't say you, they, nor anybody else found it sufficient, and again: whether I choose to reply to someone or not, including you, is my choice. It was not an obligation because it's not a serious matter. Ss112 10:44, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I got here because of your edit summary; this definitely implies that you would reach an admin for this. Anyone reading that understands that. Lunar-akaunto／talk 11:07, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

Yes, you had to look at my contributions to find whom I went to. Anyway, I'm done here. If what you're saying is true, then responding for me on my talk page or following me to talk pages won't be an issue in the future. Ss112 11:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

I never followed you anywhere. My earlier post on your talk page was quite literally an apology. My post today was never intended for you but for RuedNL2, but again, you have already displayed how you are on that.

But just for the record, above you mentioned that "even acknowledging in the post that I asked them not to post there" is incorrect; in my post, I was referring to the top message placed at your talk page; I did not even recall you asking me not to post because almost 2 years is a long time, and if you consider my memory human, I only ever disregarded your request to not post this once). Secondly, even before that, two years ago, I asked you only a total of three genuine questions on your talk page because of how overwhelming the templates and guides were to me. Yes, I was a little slow to understand, and it did get talking to circles in me a few times. I believe it would have been much better if you never reverted my edits and let someone else do it, because I am sure they'd be willing to explain to me without going "don't post at my talk page". I don't quite understand the hostility either, because I never disrespected you. A little kindness isn't explicitly stated in Wikipedia's guidelines, but it definitely wouldn't kill you either.

I just said this because I thought I should. You are not obliged to reply/justify any of this; in fact, I'd prefer you not to because I can already see what your answer would be. We're astray when we argue over this mundane thing; regardless of our pasts, the comment I originally introduced would bring anything but disorder, and yet here we are. I am ashamed of this and myself.

I have nothing more to add; I'll be off then.

P.S.: Apologies, Ad Orientem, that this discussion had to take place on your talk page and for any disruption caused. Lunar-akaunto／talk 13:49, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.